I saw some neigborhoods in Holland and in Southern France. I never believed that melting pots could meld immiscible substances. As for a rainbow or tossed salad society? There are winners and losers.
The Muslim population of Western Europe is around 3% (with an annual growth of about 0,3%). It is higher in France with around 5-6% (a consequence of their colonisation of Algeria). Of that percentage, only a small proportion are actually Islamists - in the negative sense of the term.
In Eastern Europe, Russia has an important Muslim population, but it is indigenous, and not due to immigration.
________________________ "Tobacco is my favorite vegetable." --FZ
"Government is the Entertainment Division of the military-industrial complex." --FZ too
I was thinking you were going to show me a new line by Blancpain or Patek Phillipe. Perhaps something Bin Laden liked to wear, as he frequently has a watch on his video appearances. Is my face red.
Originally posted by Gregory Mottola: I was thinking you were going to show me a new line by Blancpain or Patek Phillipe. Perhaps something Bin Laden liked to wear, as he frequently has a watch on his video appearances. Is my face red.
hahah nice profile pic... is that your version of the facepalm pic.
" . i put two boxes of cigars on the window sill and voila, the cigars became, well, "plump" within a few days. so far the plump damp cigars smoke "better" than the cool dry ones "
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With Euorpe's open immigration policies combined with the problems muslims have faced assimilating, you can bet that radical Islamists pose a very serious threat to Europe.
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Originally posted by flashman: Overdramatisation... To say the least.
Perhaps a bit. But overdramatization is a really a Muslim trait and not a Western one. What with the murdering of Van Gogh, and death threats and contracts against Rushdie, threats against Hitchens, mass hate filled demonstrations and death threats because of Danish cartoons of Mohammed, 911, applauding 911, Madrid, London, Paris bombs and firebombs, airline hijackings,...I could list much more. What are you going to say? "Yes but...crusades, inquistions, colonialism,imperialism, Zionism, petroleumism ad nauseum..."
The population growth of Islamic countries is outlandishly high.
There are a billion Muslims spanning from Morocco to Indonesia. Mostly dicatatorships, monarchies, theocracies and few failed democracies
Islamic countries treat women, minorities and infidels like crap. Sharia law amputates, blinds and lapidates people for the most mundane things. Apostasy is punishable by death.
Here's a big question Flashman. Do you think one could get away with 10% of the things that are said in this forum if it was in Iran? Saudi Arabia? Pakistan? Please answer truthfully.
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Originally posted by flashman: Overdramatisation... To say the least.
Perhaps a bit. But overdramatization is a really a Muslim trait and not a Western one. What with the murdering of Van Gogh, and death threats and contracts against Rushdie, threats against Hitchens, mass hate filled demonstrations and death threats because of Danish cartoons of Mohammed, 911, applauding 911, Madrid, London, Paris bombs and firebombs, airline hijackings,...I could list much more. What are you going to say? "Yes but...crusades, inquistions, colonialism,imperialism, Zionism, petroleumism ad nauseum..."
The population growth of Islamic countries is outlandishly high.
There are a billion Muslims spanning from Morocco to Indonesia. Mostly dicatatorships, monarchies, theocracies and few failed democracies
Islamic countries treat women, minorities and infidels like crap. Sharia law amputates, blinds and lapidates people for the most mundane things. Apostasy is punishable by death.
Sure, in terms of our own Occidental criterias and way of thinking - which also may have certain inherent flaws - they may seem a centuty behind what we have achieved in the past few decades.
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Here's a big question Flashman. Do you think one could get away with 10% of the things that are said in this forum if it was in Iran? Saudi Arabia? Pakistan? Please answer truthfully.
No.
Yet I refuse to condemn all Muslims on a generalisation.
________________________ "Tobacco is my favorite vegetable." --FZ
"Government is the Entertainment Division of the military-industrial complex." --FZ too
Pakistan, Iraq, Afghanistan and Texas are not going too well lately are they?
Perhaps Major Malik Nadal Hasan MD was a Jihadist. Perhaps he just went crazy. Perhaps he thought he was doing god's work. Perhaps his family was threatened.
I get a feeling there is a lot of all of the above in the muslim world. Maybe not everyone is doing it but the gross majority applaud it.
In all fairness other soldiers, and people of other races and religions have gone crazy and murdered people.
