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No, I don't work for TGA SYSTEMS...I would like to "push" their stuff in a way that is catered to the Cigar industry....
And I still don't understand what the OCD is all about?...I just whant to get a good Cigar and not be taken for a fool......AGAIN!!!1...ajjajajajajaj



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OCD means "obsessive compulsive disorder". But more importantly, do you work for Tag Systems (cause that would explain a lot, starting with your alias) ?
 
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Never had a bad smoke from La Casa del Habano in Montreal. I also go to Cuba at least once a year to stock up. Good luck at selling this device to them !


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It's not going to happen just yet...remember, we are taking about Altadis SA....they BIG!!!!!
The price of this tecnology is at USD $5.50/label and each lense USD $15.00/lense...I know they (Altadis SA) can afford it. but will they pay it to ensure their brand????....I hope so....It's big bucks!!!!!



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Never had a bad smoke from La Casa del Habano in Montreal. I also go to Cuba at least once a year to stock up. Good luck at selling this device to them !
 
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I was lightly referring to OCD cause you seem to be thinking in circles about that device... Especially if you have no financial interest in it.
But I understand your motives, they are noble if not motivated by commercial intersets (which I still doubt a bit).


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You seem to know too much about this thing to be innocent.


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Hi Flashman,

I'm not completely innocent...You are right, I have a vested interest in seeing that this project becomes a reality...I've seen the labels, I've been their when you look at to labels and you can't tell the difference between the two ( counterfite and real)....I've been there, when the "wrong" choice is made" ...I've been there to witness, how ANYBODY can feel empowered to detected a COUNTERFEIT cigar BOX and simply say "NO thanks, I'll buy somewhere else"....
This means, that anyone who spends anywhere from USD $350/box for H.Upmann (Magnum 50) to USD $900/box of Cohiba Seleccion Reserva can rest assured that he is getting what they pay for....And, I as a paying consumer,,, of NOT peanuts will gladly pay $15.00/ for a lense to ensure me that I'm getting what I paid for...be it here in the US, France, or even in China...
I think $15.00/lense, I would glady pay in-order to NOT get ripped off, anywhere from $350 to $900.....let the manufacturer absord the cost of the label...if you think about it..anyone who pays $350/box to $900/box of cigars is defitnitely NOT worried about a $15.00/lense and a $5.50/label.....Would you be????



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You seem to know too much about this thing to be innocent.
 
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This Tag thing might work, but this is an important subject. This subject should be a PRIORITY ONE on this forum, but sorry to say "It isn't!"


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Originally posted by Anti-Counterfeit Man:
No, I don't work for TGA SYSTEMS...I would like to "push" their stuff in a way that is catered to the Cigar industry....
And I still don't understand what the OCD is all about?...I just whant to get a good Cigar and not be taken for a fool......AGAIN!!!1...ajjajajajajaj



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Originally posted by flashman:
OCD means "obsessive compulsive disorder". But more importantly, do you work for Tag Systems (cause that would explain a lot, starting with your alias) ?


Um, has anyone realized yet that Anti-Man's location (Sunrise Florida or Merida Mexico) also happens to be the same location listed in the "about us" section of the link he has published 1000 times?

I'm sure it's just a coincidence!
 
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HI,

You guys have a nice evening and enjoy the rest of your "chat" session....It was nice hearing from you!!!
bye!!!
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Originally posted by Anti-Counterfeit Man:
No, I don't work for TGA SYSTEMS...I would like to "push" their stuff in a way that is catered to the Cigar industry....
And I still don't understand what the OCD is all about?...I just whant to get a good Cigar and not be taken for a fool......AGAIN!!!1...ajjajajajajaj



quote:
Originally posted by flashman:
OCD means "obsessive compulsive disorder". But more importantly, do you work for Tag Systems (cause that would explain a lot, starting with your alias) ?


Um, has anyone realized yet that Anti-Man's location (Sunrise Florida or Merida Mexico) also happens to be the same location listed in the "about us" section of the link he has published 1000 times?

I'm sure it's just a coincidence!
 
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Originally posted by Anti-Counterfeit Man:
HI,

You guys have a nice evening and enjoy the rest of your "chat" session....It was nice hearing from you!!!
bye!!!
Smile



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Originally posted by Anti-Counterfeit Man:
No, I don't work for TGA SYSTEMS...I would like to "push" their stuff in a way that is catered to the Cigar industry....
And I still don't understand what the OCD is all about?...I just whant to get a good Cigar and not be taken for a fool......AGAIN!!!1...ajjajajajajaj



quote:
Originally posted by flashman:
OCD means "obsessive compulsive disorder". But more importantly, do you work for Tag Systems (cause that would explain a lot, starting with your alias) ?


Um, has anyone realized yet that Anti-Man's location (Sunrise Florida or Merida Mexico) also happens to be the same location listed in the "about us" section of the link he has published 1000 times?

I'm sure it's just a coincidence!


Cover blown... no longer safe... must create new login using different location so as not to appear as obvious!
 
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Its a good question, but has you can see, many here don't want to know the true. Its better to not know and then brag about their "Cubans".


I would rather know the truth. Aficionado.com has some examples of whether or not an individual has aquired fake Cubans and so forth. Wink


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LOL Big Grin (to kd's post)


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...if you think about it..anyone who pays $350/box to $900/box of cigars is defitnitely NOT worried about a $15.00/lense and a $5.50/label.




Very true.

Cool


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I think Dee Dee just bought shares in TAG Systems... Wink


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I think Dee Dee just bought shares in TAG Systems... Wink


Well......actually I was given a 'fake' before and there are people out there that are spending a lot thinking they are getting the 'real deal'.

I think this guy has a good concept. What's $15.00 /lense right?


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Call me a sucker for grammar and spelling, but I don't know what a "lense" is. Come to think of it, I don't know what that "ajajajaj" business at the end of his posts was all about, either.


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Call me a sucker for grammar and spelling, but I don't know what a "lense" is. Come to think of it, I don't know what that "ajajajaj" business at the end of his posts was all about, either.


The "j" sounds like "h" in Spanish. I guess.


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Good concept, yes and no, but I don't like companies using this forum to promote their wares.
As for the "ajajaj...", I think he was making a reference to some movie or TV character that uses that sound to express felicity.


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Good concept, yes and no, but I don't like companies using this forum to promote their wares.
As for the "ajajaj...", I think he was making a reference to some movie or TV character that uses that sound to express felicity.


I think he was here to gather opinions to see if there would a market out there for this concept/idea.

I think if he promotes it right....he might be successful. Particularly with the high dollar cigars?


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I believe you are right. There is something there that could eventually bloom...
It's the "covert" aspect of is initiative that bothered me. He didn't come right out and say : "I'm a partner in this company, I want to market this thing, what do you think ?"
Instead, he presented himself (quite awkwardly) as a third party, an innocent victim of fraud asking for ways to avert this... Knowing all along he had his own solution.
I just don't like to be taken for a ride.


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