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You believe I get all my views from conservative outlets and that I cannot think for myself. You have nothing to base this on, not one thing.

Oh, of course I do. I base it on the fact that you're never -- literally never -- able to defend your position by means of rational argument. You simply don't tolerate other opinions because your inability to make a thoughful response fuels your sense of inadequacy. The result of feeling inadequate is anger -- in your case, rage -- manifested in name-calling and vilifying whoever disagrees. Otherwise, you wouldn't be so thoroughly unpleasant.

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However, I do indeed think for myself and I do not defend my party when they screw up, which they surely have at times.

But the only time you know they've screwed up is when you're told that's the case, and that you should criticize them for it. It's not as though you've discerned that for yourself.

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Originally posted by fredneck:
Al Quaeda is a myth.

Indeed it is, but Al Qaeda is real.

Nice spelling. If you're gonna be a smart-@ss, try spelling it right first.

Oh wait, let me guess, it must've been the U.S. government that knocked over the WTC, damaged the Pentagon and crashed a plane in Pennsylvania? I bet the U.S. Government attacked the U.S.S. Cole as well?

Thanks for correcting my spelling honey, now, get me a beer!

As to the WTC and Pentagon? Weren't those guys mostly Saudis?

And how in the hell do you hijack a plane with a boxcutter?

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You believe I get all my views from conservative outlets and that I cannot think for myself. You have nothing to base this on, not one thing.
Oh, of course I do. I base it on the fact that you're never -- literally never -- able to defend your position by means of rational argument. You simply don't tolerate other opinions because your inability to respond fuels your sense of inadequacy. The result of feeling inadequate is anger -- in your case, rage -- manifested in name-calling and vilifying whoever disagrees. Otherwise, you wouldn't be so thoroughly unpleasant.
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However, I do indeed think for myself and I do not defend my party when they screw up, which they surely have at times.
But the only time you know they've screwed up is when you're told that's the case, and that you should criticize them for it. It's not as though you've discerned that for yourself.

Jack, grow up. Really, you are very pretentious. I mean really, what did you do call the psychic hotline and ask them where I get my opinions? I guess you do not read and gather information for yourself? Evertime you post, it's like listening to Bob Beckel or Terry MacCauliffe. Give it a rest.

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Originally posted by Presley:

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Originally posted by fredneck:
Al Quaeda is a myth.

Indeed it is, but Al Qaeda is real.

Nice spelling. If you're gonna be a smart-@ss, try spelling it right first.

Oh wait, let me guess, it must've been the U.S. government that knocked over the WTC, damaged the Pentagon and crashed a plane in Pennsylvania? I bet the U.S. Government attacked the U.S.S. Cole as well?

Thanks for correcting my spelling honey, now, get me a beer!

Nice answer to the question. Now, who carried out the 9/11 attacks if Al Qaeda is a myth?

That question still pisses me off. If some skinny dude shows me a box cutter and says he's hijacking the plane, that guy is getting his box cutter shoved up his butt.

All kidding aside (yes, the Al Qaeda reference was a joke),the fact is, and I guess I will agree to the nature of the the original post, is that our military is badass. We will find the bad guys, and kill them, 1000 times to one. There is no doubt about that.

Jack White is 100% correct about you, Pres. Insults, name calling, that's your style, not rational discussion or debate. It's a shame because I think you MIGHT actually be worth debating, but since all you do is insult people, we'll never know.

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Originally posted by fredneck:
All kidding aside (yes, the Al Qaeda reference was a joke),the fact is, and I guess I will agree to the nature of the the original post, is that our military is badass. We will find the bad guys, and kill them, 1000 times to one. There is no doubt about that.

Oh, then I apologize. I thought you were being serious when you said there was no such thing as Al Quaeda. I figured with some of the Cabrons running around this site that believe just about any conspiracy theory, you may be another. I was wrong, I apologize.

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Originally posted by Johnny Loco:
Jack White is 100% correct about you, Pres. Insults, name calling, that's your style, not rational discussion or debate. It's a shame because I think you MIGHT actually be worth debating, but since all you do is insult people, we'll never know.

Wow, you and Jack just break my heart. You are the last person who should speak of insulting. You need to go back and reread some of your own posts.

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Wow, you and Jack just break my heart. You are the last person who should speak of insulting. You need to go back and reread some of your own posts.

Presley, is it your contention that you do not respond to posts with which you disagree with anger, personal attacks on the poster, name-calling, derision and insults?

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Wow, you and Jack just break my heart. You are the last person who should speak of insulting. You need to go back and reread some of your own posts.

Presley, is it your contention that you do not respond to posts with which you disagree with anger, personal attacks on the poster, name-calling, derision and insults?

Jack, I really need make no contention to someone as silly and idealistic as yourself. You lost my respect the day you stuck up for Obama when he lied. You see, I don't mind it when someone supports a candidate that is a blatant liar. I do mind when someone makes a statement of disbelief about a candidate and that candidates actions. Then, later when said candidate is caught in an outright lie, you cover for them. That to me tells me all that I need to know of you. For one, you seem to lack character and secondly you lack guts. Sure, you have that silly little quote at the bottom of your posts, however, most people post quotes to refer to the way they think or act.
This truth you so actively seek, as in "derive the truth. speak truth to power" where does it exist? It seems to me that you aren't interested in the truth. You're just interested in "change" simply for the sake of change. While you may be harmless by yourself, groups of people like you can be quite dangerous. People like you will vote for Senator Obama, regardless of the warning signs we have been seeing the last few months. This is liberalisms fatal flaw, it intermeshes with idealism and secularism. So, say what you will about me. Your opinion is just that, your opinion. I will respect your opinion, but I don't respect you. I respect people who stand for truth. If I hear a lie, I call it a lie. I don't call it a "misspeak". Accountability is just one key to making sure our leaders are effective. Your quote says "Make them defend what they are doing in your name", well Jack, it's hard to do that when you do not hold someone accountable, true?

LOL. C'mon, Presley -- answer the question. It's a simple one.

By the way, what the hell does this mean?? "This is liberalisms fatal flaw, it intermeshes with idealism and secularism."

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LOL. C'mon, Presley -- answer the question. It's a simple one.

By the way, what the hell does this mean?? "This is liberalisms fatal flaw, it intermeshes with idealism and secularism."

Hmm, it's pretty clear. Liberalism's fatal flaw is that it intermeshes with idealism and secularism. In other words, liberals tend to be both idealistic and secular.
What question did you want answered?

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liberals tend to be both idealistic and secular.

And the wrong in this is.....?

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In other words, liberals tend to be both idealistic and secular.

As opposed to ... what? What do conservatives tend to be?

It's not clear to me you understand what the words mean.

Common Pers, tell us what's the big problem in being liberal, secular and idealistic??

Wait. He's looking it up.

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In other words, liberals tend to be both idealistic and secular.

As opposed to ... what? What do conservatives tend to be?

It's not clear to me you understand what the words mean.

Seriously, are you saying you cannot discern for yourself?

Idealist-a person who represents things as they might or should be rather than as they are.

Secular- not belonging to a religious order.

Conservatives tend to be realists.

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Common Pers, tell us what's the big problem in being liberal, secular and idealistic??

The problem with being idealist is that you do not see the way things really are, only what you want them to be. For instance, you all see Obama as without flaw, if there is a flaw there, you explain it away.
As far as being secular, that is your choice. However, I tend to believe that if you do not answer to a higher power or authority, perhaps it leads you to believing that you are a higher power or authority.