All news has some bias. Sometimes, the commentary on Fox makes me gag; however, it is clearly identified as commentary. CNN rarely makes this distinction. I try to get my news from many sources, as the the middle.
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Don't be so sure...In fact, from my experience, I'd say this is dead wrong...just because no one has been caught doesn't mean it doesn't happen...That's like saying the Patriots were the only team stealing signals...
Yeah, well when they are caught red-handed, you let me know, otherwise it was ONLY the dems...
"Different campaign strategies here...GOP needs to play the middle early, Dems don't, they need a solid base...nothing to do with "fear" of questions...even the people I don't like in this election cycle could run circles around Bill O'reilly or Anderson Cooper in any situation...there is no "fear" at their level"
Thats a load of crap, they are afraid to face real questions, when Hillary got caught up in the license for illegals debacle, her campaign cried foul for days and Bill came to the rescue to decry they were picking on a girl...
"Ratings really don't provide any substance to this conversation...Monday night football gets higher ratings than all of them combined...on your logic, Tony Kornhesier (sp?) could be a contender next fall."
The ratings don't provide substance? Sure they do, they show you are in the minority as well as wrong...
"Great way to refrence "the Factor"...where the only spin is to buy Bill's books...I honestly watch for this on that program now...he hasn't gone the first 45 minutes in the last two years w/o using his books as a credible source for news...great for marketing, hypocritical if you say there's no spin in your 'zone'..."
Wow, you need to get a life, watching for two straight years to mark times on book plugs...nice way to spin...
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free." Ronald Reagan
This is great...after I posted that, I went back and read some of your previous posts at random and realized I had wasted my time using reason and objectivity, trying to stick to germain points and offer rational analysis....
so, here you go...
Presley, you're 100% right, all the time...I'm 100% wrong. I have been so humbled and will go re-read, and memorize everything Rush, Bill, and Hannity have published until I completely comprehend the error of my ways...I was a fool to question such sound logic and it was certainly my fault, and to my detriment, to offer my own insight and thinking into a discussion...I should have made my comments driven condem and ridicule...and I know I need to incorproate more rhetorical questions into my approach and resort more often to catchy phrases like "get a life" and "load of crap."
As I move forward in life, I will forever shut-out new ideas that challenge my way of thinking and condescend all challengers to things that do not conform to my new, and extremely rigid, close-minded view of the world. I will hate more, exercise less compassion, and remain entirely in the box of ignorance I will create for myself.
Thank you for highlighting my errors and mistakes, I will strive to do better, but not to be better than those obviously superior.
jag
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We should be too big to take offense and too noble to give it. ~ Abraham Lincoln
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Wow, you need to get a life
This is great...after I posted that, I went back and read some of your previous posts at random and realized I had wasted my time using reason and objectivity, trying to stick to germain points and offer rational analysis....
so, here you go...
Presley, you're 100% right, all the time...I'm 100% wrong. I have been so humbled and will go re-read, and memorize everything Rush, Bill, and Hannity have published until I completely comprehend the error of my ways...I was a fool to question such sound logic and it was certainly my fault, and to my detriment, to offer my own insight and thinking into a discussion...I should have made my comments driven condem and ridicule...and I know I need to incorproate more rhetorical questions into my approach and resort more often to catchy phrases like "get a life" and "load of crap."
As I move forward in life, I will forever shut-out new ideas that challenge my way of thinking and condescend all challengers to things that do not conform to my new, and extremely rigid, close-minded view of the world. I will hate more, exercise less compassion, and remain entirely in the box of ignorance I will create for myself.
Thank you for highlighting my errors and mistakes, I will strive to do better, but not to be better than those obviously superior.
I'm not superior at all, I'm backing up everything I say with facts... Fact one-A Clinton insider was a CNN plant at the Republican debate. Fact two-Fox News is the highest rated cable news channel. Fact Three-When Hillary had it rough, Bill came out complaining that the candidates were picking on a girl...
You cannot dispute these facts and therefor complain that I am "always right", well I know I am wrong at times but you need to prove it with facts as I have to you rather than throw up your hands in a sophomoric display of frustration. I'm sure we agree on some things, politics just isn't one of them. However, I did not mean to offend you, just stating facts and they can come off as more abrasive on a web page.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free." Ronald Reagan
I'm not superior at all, I'm backing up everything I say with facts... Fact one-A Clinton insider was a CNN plant at the Republican debate. Fact two-Fox News is the highest rated cable news channel. Fact Three-When Hillary had it rough, Bill came out complaining that the candidates were picking on a girl...
You cannot dispute these facts and therefor complain that I am "always right", well I know I am wrong at times but you need to prove it with facts as I have to you rather than throw up your hands in a sophomoric display of frustration. I'm sure we agree on some things, politics just isn't one of them. However, I did not mean to offend you, just stating facts and they can come off as more abrasive on a web page.
You're right! it was a Clinton plant...I was wrong to use personal experience to challenge that! I have never met the people that recruit audiences for debates, nor have I ever met the people that conduct oppositon research and write "loaded" questions...
You're right! Fox news is the highest rated cable news channel...I was a fool to think that high ratings = no bias...I was a fool to think we were discussing biases when we were really talking about ratings...And I certainly don't recall when Fox first began to air and had low ratings, because if I did, that would lead me to believe CNN was right-on-the-money back then...god forbid any recollection of pre-Fox news, no one must have been right then, the whole world just was one big sham of bias...
You're right...I recall Bill C. saying exactly, "don't pick on a girl." I would have argued that his timley admission of some of the flaws of his administration were used to provide cover for his wife, but really, he was out just stopping bullys.
I'm not frustrated at all, and I'm only a freshman. And I'm sure we agree on a lot of things, I am a very conservative person, both politically and personally...but I do my best to remain objective and try to learn from others...I can learn more from someone I disagree with through an honest exchange that I can learn from pushing my point of view and clenching my beliefs so tightly that I suffocate myself...
jag
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We should be too big to take offense and too noble to give it. ~ Abraham Lincoln
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Honestly, I'm disappointed with the whole field. There is no one perfect candidate. No true conservative all round, Guliani, McCain and Romney all suffer on illegal immigration, Huckabee on taxes, Guliani and Romney are bad on social issues...wow. I'm looking at who will be toughest on terror and I feel Guliani is the man for that job. Fred Thompson would be great if he wasn't so tired.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free." Ronald Reagan
I don't think any of these "debates" are real debates. mJusty once I would like to see the moderator say, "sir (or madam) you did not answer the question, just say yes or no". They never willbe that hard because they know one of those people is going to be elected and they want to be able to interview them at a later date.
Does anyone else think Mitt Romnay looks like the guy in the Enzyte commercial?
Good people sleep at night knowing there are rough men ready to do violence on their behalf
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Fox News has higher ratings every night than all other cable news outlets combined, can you explain that?
Sure, there must be a lot of conservative nutjobs that watch Faux News. What does ratings have do do with anything, and why would I need to explain it? McDonald's generates more revenue than any other restaurant chain in the country. Does that make it good food? Does that mean it's the best thing to eat?
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The ratings don't provide substance? Sure they do, they show you are in the minority as well as wrong...
So ratings determines who is right and who is wrong? Are those in the minority necessarily wrong, BECAUSE they are in the minority?
By your logic, you should pay attention to BBC News, as their ratings exceed Fox's. (You'd be getting a more balanced perspective in that case anyway, so I guess you aren't entirely wrong for following the ratings...)
When the facts change, I change. What do you do, sir? - Lord Keynes
Posts: 2341 | Location: the GTA | Registered: November 28, 2007
This is great...after I posted that, I went back and read some of your previous posts at random and realized I had wasted my time using reason and objectivity, trying to stick to germain points and offer rational analysis....
so, here you go...
Presley, you're 100% right, all the time...I'm 100% wrong. I have been so humbled and will go re-read, and memorize everything Rush, Bill, and Hannity have published until I completely comprehend the error of my ways...I was a fool to question such sound logic and it was certainly my fault, and to my detriment, to offer my own insight and thinking into a discussion...I should have made my comments driven condem and ridicule...and I know I need to incorproate more rhetorical questions into my approach and resort more often to catchy phrases like "get a life" and "load of crap."
As I move forward in life, I will forever shut-out new ideas that challenge my way of thinking and condescend all challengers to things that do not conform to my new, and extremely rigid, close-minded view of the world. I will hate more, exercise less compassion, and remain entirely in the box of ignorance I will create for myself.
Thank you for highlighting my errors and mistakes, I will strive to do better, but not to be better than those obviously superior.
jag
Man, I nearly sprayed coffee all over my screen reading this!
When the facts change, I change. What do you do, sir? - Lord Keynes
Posts: 2341 | Location: the GTA | Registered: November 28, 2007
No, they just lie to the public on a continuous basis to promote their rightist agenda.
Wow, nice try using a smear web site to make your point, now try using something main stream...
"Sure, there must be a lot of conservative nutjobs that watch Faux News. What does ratings have do do with anything, and why would I need to explain it? McDonald's generates more revenue than any other restaurant chain in the country. Does that make it good food? Does that mean it's the best thing to eat?"
What an analogy...really. Let me break it down for you, the ratings tend to lean towards the source deemed more credible. Because of instances of heavy left bias such as what this woman is apologizing for...
BBC? Please post proof of that claim...You silly liberal newb...
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"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free." Ronald Reagan
Oh, and can you please explain your logic for thinking that ratings determines who is right and who is wrong? Are those in the minority necessarily wrong, BECAUSE they are in the minority?
It's clear to me now that arguing with close-minded uneducated conservatives is a completely pointless and gross misuse of time.
Your misplaced belief that strong ratings imply correctness or unbiasedness shows everyone here how blind and incapable of independent thought you really are. No wonder you like Fox News...
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When the facts change, I change. What do you do, sir? - Lord Keynes
Posts: 2341 | Location: the GTA | Registered: November 28, 2007
Tell you what jeebus, first, please educate me on what your folks will do for our country IF they win the White House? Secondly, that website is a bunch of BS. Thirdly, which big words are you referring to?
"(PS Sorry for using all those big words)"
Lastly, with all of nine post you really don't need to be an @ss with comments like these, how about some decorum?
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"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free." Ronald Reagan
Originally posted by jagmqt: I watch Fox simply becaue I'm a conservative and it's easy for me to "smell my own"...It's easier for me to pick the news out of the conservative slant and disregard the crap on Fox then CNN...does that make sense? Kind of like being able to spot someone from your hometown because you recognize the accent...
Makes perfect sense, and if it works for you I totally respect that.
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People that say they have no bias are my favorite type of idiots...Unless your saying only hard fact, there's no way around it...People that say they're bias-free are usually pushing an agenda...
I agree completely. (And they say liberals and conservatives can't agree!)
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Happy politicking!
You too!
When the facts change, I change. What do you do, sir? - Lord Keynes
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