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Thanks salibas.

Found this too: http://folk.ntnu.no/arnesen/peltierbeer/index.html


this is a great link.. wow... pure genius...
 
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Thanks salibas.

Found this too: http://folk.ntnu.no/arnesen/peltierbeer/index.html


That guy is my hero.


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Hey salibas,

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you'll find that the big problem with that, is if the cabinet you're using is not properly insulated, you will need a HUGE unit (or multiple smaller ones) to properly cool it.. and that is the big problem, as the units are bulky, heavy and not cheap..


My whole thing is I want to be able to cool my desktop. There probably is no way to make it cost efficient compared to just going with a wine cooler. But I don't have the space or the cigs for much more than a desktop. I am also a nerd. So I am thinking of taking an old 30-count humi and putting some peltier jazz (peltiers, heatsinks, fans, power) in it and let it sit next to my bigger one containing the sensors and cigars, funneling cool air to it thru a pipe. Then you disconnect it altogether in the winter.

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as for powering them, it's very simple... you need to get a temperature controller and a power supply for your coolers, and voilà.. it's done...


Sound straight forward, I just need to figure out the details on what controllers work with what power supplies that will work with what size peltier, etc.


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I'm not sure cooling a small humi and funeling it's air to a larger desktop would work..

IMO, you'd be better off installaing the thermo-electric bloc in your desktop through the back wall..

just make sure you get a large enough bloc because the humidor is not insulated.. so if you're trying to drop up to 15 degrees in a 250 ct desktop then I'd suggest you get a bloc no smaller than 50 Watts or 160 BTU/hr..
 
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I think my dream gadget is an ATM card that always provides me with a fresh stack of Benjamins. That would make this hobby (and a couple of others) far more awesome.
 
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Once my summertime AC is on (I'll wait til this happens) I figure I won't need to take it down more than 10 degrees.

In my dream, it would work like this: imagine the 30 count with a wall down the middle length wise with 2-3 peltiers lined on it. So you have one hot side and one cold side. Hot side has a vent fan, cold side has an intake and exhaust pipe (that gets funneled to big humi). I might build it just to see if it works. I like the idea of nothing but cool air going into the main humi, no devices, sealant, condensation, etc. Just the sensors.


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Or wait, am I just trying to reinvent the wheel? -> http://www.thermoelectric.com/2005/pr/ssac/fhp-450xe.htm


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Or wait, am I just trying to reinvent the wheel? -> http://www.thermoelectric.com/2005/pr/ssac/fhp-750.htm


in fact this is simply a flush-mount type of cooler (vs the more traditional through-mount)..

it is basically the same thing, but it sits entirely on the outside of your humi, whereas the through-mount has the cold plate on the inside of your enclosure…

you still need to cut a hole in the back of your humi…
 
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Hey guys looky: http://www.industrialethernet.com/sp2.html

Better info: http://site.gridconnect.com/docs/AKCP/sp2_brochure_GC.pdf (go to page 3).

Oh yes, yes, yes. Big Grin

You are SO cool when your grid of humidors logs web viewable performance data and emails/pages you when problems are detected or predicted.

OEM plug-n-play environmental sensor data-logging micro web servers are the wave of our future. Big Grin

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Aphexafx - Thanks for posting that web site as I had it once and lost it. I use some of it that equipment.

Some of you guys got some sweet toys there. I really like the Cab with the A/C units and Humidification system.


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th is really nioce, but at 245$ a pop.. it's going to be quite an expensive add-on..

i wonder if I can't make something out of a micro-atx board with a temp/RH probe and an ethernet connector...
 
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Yea, this stuff is pricey, even the smallest peltier based coolers. It may be DIY-time at RadioShack.


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Yea, this stuff is pricey, even the smallest peltier based coolers. It may be DIY-time at RadioShack.


exactly.. and this is why I abandoned the idea of converting a regular cabinet into a cooled humidor, and went the TE wine cooler way…
 
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