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Ok, in the third volume, or rant if you will, I will be tackling the subject of aged and vintage cigars.

WTF is the deal with everyone saying that their cigars are Aged 10 years or Vintage 1993?

Rocky Patel wasn’t even in the cigar business at the time that his Vintage cigars would have been rolled! And if this tobacco is do old and scarce, how come after three years of making these things, does he still have the tobacco?

So what’s the big deal, you ask?

Well, there is a B I G difference between aged tobacco and an aged cigar!

Would you want to smoke a wine from 2005 that was just squished from 10 year old grapes?

Ask a vet CC smoker if he gives a rat’s @ss about pre-embargo Cuban tobacco that was recently found in some warehouse. Now tell that same person you found a 10 year old Monte No. 2 in your grandfather’s humidor. You can imagine the different reaction you would get.

To me the definition of a vintage or aged cigar is that the cigar NOT the tobacco has been aged for that period of time. That’s the whole point, folks. The tobacco has to marry like the blender intended it for.

If you throw some 10 year old filler in with an ‘05 binder and wrapper, you are not getting an aged cigar.

It’s the implication and the marketing that is bothering me. I do not think one single manufacturer is actually selling and aged or vintage cigar. The words “vintage” and “aged” should refer to the cigar itself unless it is specifically specified.

Here’s an example of how some people do it right: Henrik Kelner found some old Connecticut leaf that had been sitting in a warehouse for 18 years. He then rolled the 18-year Double-Connecticut for Cusano. They never say the cigar is 18 years old, they simply are referring to the wrapper. And after a while this cigar will be no more because they will have run out of the old wrapper leaves. The same goes with the Camacho Liberties. The include in some for the filler pre-embargo Cuban tobacco. This year supposedly will be their last because they do not have enough of the old leaf for another year’s batch.

I guess my point (if I have one) is that there are absolutely no regulations or rules for this industry. You can say whatever you want and people have to trust you. I feel that marketing drives us to “false” products and that is their intent; which is the worst part about it.

My advice, is if you want an aged cigar, or just go to your local tobacconist and I am sure they can point you to some premium smokes that they have had in their humidor for quite a while.


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Hallelujah!


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Talk about hitting the nail on the head. Right again Sprizz my good man!!


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Good point Sprizzy.

What are some cigars that are aged? Aren't the Pam and Pans aged 3 or 5 years as rolled cigars? I'd be curios as to what others are.



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Nice work Sprizzle, I look forward to Vol.IV.


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Originally posted by seahawkfan:
What are some cigars that are aged? Aren't the Pam and Pans aged 3 or 5 years as rolled cigars? I'd be curios as to what others are.


I thought so too, but it's just the tobaccy that's got the age (I stand by mey retailer on this one - read Perleman's too). The truth is out there!

Supposedly Padron has more tobacco than even the Olivas. They have a lot of old tobacco not old cigars, they cannot age cigars and meet consumer demand for PANs and PAMs.


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That explains why I'm so fine; I've been aging since 1958!!!! I'm a pre-embargo Tiny Tim! LOL Big Grin


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That explains why I'm so fine; I've been aging since 1958!!!! I'm a pre-embargo Tiny Tim! LOL Big Grin


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