This case is going before the Supreme Court this month. Essentially, a 13 year old girl was strip searched based on the "tip" of a girl who actually had pills on her body.
What does everyone think of this? Should the school/school administration have the right/power to strip search a student, or does a student's privacy interest outweigh the school's interest?
The school has the right to call the student's parents, call the police, suspend or expel them. Not to strip-search them (or administer corporal punishment). IMO.
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the schools should not be allowed to do something like that, its bad enough they can take most rights away, but when they take your own physical privacy thats going a bit too far
Schools should never be allowed to strip search students unless a weapon is involved-my two cents.
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See Ingraham v. Wright, 430 U.S. 651 (1977). Supreme Court says corporal punishment is permissible, and, apparently, school districts still exercise the right.
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Schools should never be allowed to strip search students unless a weapon is involved
How about possession of marijuana? Cocaine? Heroin?
Nope. Call the police.
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See Ingraham v. Wright, 430 U.S. 651 (1977). Supreme Court says corporal punishment is permissible, and, apparently, school districts still exercise the right.
Without parental consent?
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the school safety officers are supposed to be like police officers. i did not read the article but when weapons and drugs enter the picture i see no problem with strip searches. the students already go through metal detectors.
I've said this in another thread. Do you want your daughter strip searched off a tip from another minor? Or because a teacher thinks they might possess something? No. Why? Pedophilia.
Edit-ibuprofen!? What? As strong as two advils..in other words..the recommended dose for anybody over 12 years of age. Give me a freakin break. Sue their a$$es off. They didn't ask if she had pills. If she did, maybe they were her prescription. I had medication in school before, I needed to take it. What, if they suspect me of having any perscription drug they can do stuff like this?
Rumors she may have drunk alcohol at a party? WTF is that? Gossip? School officals acting more like 13 year old girls than the girl. Oh, Oh, I heard she drank alcohol and then kissed a boy, tee hee.
I would take that case pro bono if I were a lawyer.
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Unacceptable. No reasonable student would expect a strip search at school. Show me where it states that the school has the right to have students expose their genitalia during a drug search. She was a student and should be treated with some modicum of dignity, not a prisoner in some penitentiary! Further, she wasn't even an adult, but a 13 year old!
This final comment by the school is most distressing. It assumes guilt (even implies it!) over presumed innocence first.
Quote from article: “Her assertion should not be misread to infer that she never broke school rules,” the district said of Ms. Redding in a brief, “only that she was never caught.”"
I hope that the lawsuit goes well for the Reddings.
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No strip searches w/o probable cause and a juvenile peer "tip" certainly doesn't pass muster. But the school has the obligation to follow up on the allegation and involve the parents and maybe even the police depending upon the circumstances.
OTOH, there's always two sides to a story so I'm sure there's a lot more to this than the Cliff Notes summary above. It's pretty hard for me to believe the principal would authorize such an invasion of privacy unless other circumstantial evidence pointed to the likelihood that it was true. But even then, conduct of a strip search is a matter for the police...not just someone on the school staff.
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