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Damn, Lucky, you are getting your *** handed to you. You should stick to posts in which you get forum-members to rank each other because you don't know **** about anything else.



I was thinking the same thing.


X3

Yeah like that vote for what was it thread?


"Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God"
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I'll say this though : saying Islam, or Christianity for that matter, is evil is plain DUMB.


I don't think anyone here is claiming that. But on the other hand, I have yet to hear Lucky or anyone else account for the divisive, hateful language in the text of the Koran itself.

Lucky likes to shake beehives but can't deal very well with the bees.


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Lucky likes to shake beehives but can't deal very well with the bees.


LMFAO!
Thats a good one great come back.


"Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God"
-Thomas Jefferson

"The tree of freedom must be nurtured from time to time with the blood of its patriots"
-Thomas Jefferson

"When the Government Fears the People, There is Liberty; When the People Fear the Government, There is Tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson
 
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Has anyone here tried going into any websites populated by Middle Easterners and talking about how great the US is? Or how wrong Saudi Arabia or Iran or Egypt is about everything?


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Here you go Lucky dispute this.
http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/terrorist2.html
Its to much to post so here is the link.


"Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God"
-Thomas Jefferson

"The tree of freedom must be nurtured from time to time with the blood of its patriots"
-Thomas Jefferson

"When the Government Fears the People, There is Liberty; When the People Fear the Government, There is Tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson
 
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Damn, Lucky, you are getting your *** handed to you. You should stick to posts in which you get forum-members to rank each other because you don't know **** about anything else.



So I am being busy researching the verses you mentioned to explain them to you in a civilized manner but you have nothing better to do other than personal attacks??

Looks like it's not even worth bothering myself with explaining anything from the Quran to you since apparently you have a preformed opinion that you are not willing to change.


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AS usual Lucky starts out hard goes limp quick


"Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God"
-Thomas Jefferson

"The tree of freedom must be nurtured from time to time with the blood of its patriots"
-Thomas Jefferson

"When the Government Fears the People, There is Liberty; When the People Fear the Government, There is Tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson
 
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AS usual Lucky starts out hard goes limp quick


Sheep, if you really think you are doing anything by your childish name-calling and insults, I am afraid to burst your bubble; you aren't. You are only making a fool of yourself by the sheer amount of hate and personal attacks that infest your posts, and it isn't surprising you would be considered cool by some here, when in reality I doubt any of the rational guys around here see you as anything but a clown.


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No Lucky you are cool with your anti American agenda!


"Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God"
-Thomas Jefferson

"The tree of freedom must be nurtured from time to time with the blood of its patriots"
-Thomas Jefferson

"When the Government Fears the People, There is Liberty; When the People Fear the Government, There is Tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson
 
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Yes, I know about the NFZ, I want to know about your planes that Iraq shot.


"American and British aircraft continuously maintained the integrity of the NFZ, receiving anti-aircraft fire from Iraqi forces almost daily."


Are you kidding me or what?
Are you trying to convince me, or even convince yourself, that the American invasion of Iraq in 2003 was in response to that??

Wow, just wow, that's an all time stupid.


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No Lucky you are cool with your anti American agenda!



For the millionth time, please point out my "anti American" agenda. If being against the war in Iraq makes me "anti America" then I am afraid most Americans today are, cause they agree with me on that.

You always jump in, throw baseless accusations, and when I ask you to point out in details you just disappear or give me the usual rant about my language, when in all honesty I think my English is as good as yours, if not better, at least in punctuation.


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Yes, I know about the NFZ, I want to know about your planes that Iraq shot.


"American and British aircraft continuously maintained the integrity of the NFZ, receiving anti-aircraft fire from Iraqi forces almost daily."


Are you kidding me or what?
Are you trying to convince me, or even convince yourself, that the American invasion of Iraq in 2003 was in response to that??

Wow, just wow, that's an all time stupid.


Lucky, I think you need to re-read my previous posts. I didn't say the invasion was in response to this. I'm not sure why this isn't sinking in? I said this was one of the many examples of provocation. Was the rationale to invade Iraq because they shot at our planes? Of course not. But don't sit here and tell me there wasn't provocation.

BTW, shooting at another country's warplanes is in itself an act of war.
 
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Yes, I know about the NFZ, I want to know about your planes that Iraq shot.


"American and British aircraft continuously maintained the integrity of the NFZ, receiving anti-aircraft fire from Iraqi forces almost daily."


Are you kidding me or what?
Are you trying to convince me, or even convince yourself, that the American invasion of Iraq in 2003 was in response to that??

Wow, just wow, that's an all time stupid.


Lucky, I think you need to re-read my previous posts. I didn't say the invasion was in response to this. I'm not sure why this isn't sinking in? I said this was one of the many examples of provocation. Was the rationale to invade Iraq because they shot at our planes? Of course not. But don't sit here and tell me there wasn't provocation.

BTW, shooting at another country's warplanes is in itself an act of war.


Sure, the question is, why are these other country's plane in Iraqi air in the first place.

Quit the provocation bull ****. The only reason the USA gave for invading Iraq was WMDS, then they started making up all kinds of silly reasons when they found no WMDs there. And of course in reality it wasn't even for WMDs, Iraq was on the American agenda from the days of the older Bush.


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I believe it was a combination of things including the NFZ incidents that initiated the promptness of the war. We had recently been attacked on home soil, Iraq's blatent disregard for International rules when it comes to weapons and the "shadyness" that was prevailent during inspections. In addition we had France, Britain, Germany and Russia all confirming intelligence leading to weapons of mass destruction. We arent't even friends with Germany, France or Russia but their intelligence was the same as ours. Yet some have said "Bush lied".?. Now of course there hasn't been a huge payload of WOMDs but they have found small stockpiles of Biochemical weaponry. Basically Saddam found himself in the wrong place at the wrong time and with so many sources pointing at him, and his stupid antics of handling weapons inspections, NFZ incidents and other various terroristic threats now he now finds himself a pathetic POW. Were there mistakes in the war; absolutley. Show me a war without mistakes. Are we losing troops; Yes? But show me a war that lasts as long as this one with the minimal amount of casualties we've had comparitively? There isn't one out there. Our military is so surgical and stunning how efficient they are.
 
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Sure, the question is, why are these other country's plane in Iraqi air in the first place.

Again, to uphold the ceasefire resolutions that Saddam violated. And to protect the Kurds from another Al-Anfal Campaign.

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Iraq was on the American agenda from the days of the older Bush.


This is the first post of yours in this thread that is accurate. Regime change in Baghdad was a stated policy of the United States since the 90's. After 9/11, rightly or wrongly, the decision was made that Saddam had to go.
 
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For the millionth time, please point out my "anti American" agenda.


Uhhh...aside from threadjacking every other thread to bash America? I don't know why anyone would ever think you were anti-American.


Lucky, again, your English is poor. You constantly jump to the wrong conclusions. Also, when presented with specific facts and dates, you simply gloss over them and continue on your baseless rants.

Your story has grown tiresome.
 
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Your story has grown tiresome.


Tiresome yes boring no i am 6 hrs ahead of of you guys on the east coast of the United States.Its 2 am in Italy i am smoking a Cuban Cigar drinking a nice bottle of my own wine and LMFAO! Lucky your the best entertainment i have gotten all week thanks so much.God Bless You.


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-Thomas Jefferson

"The tree of freedom must be nurtured from time to time with the blood of its patriots"
-Thomas Jefferson

"When the Government Fears the People, There is Liberty; When the People Fear the Government, There is Tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson
 
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UN said give up weapons. They didn't have any. UN said allow inspectors in. They did. Bush stopped inspection and bombed them.

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We attacked Iraq without provocation... what should WE get?


I disagree with the premise that it was without provocation. Look through UN records, do some research . . .
 
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Die Hard Lemmings and Dittos heads. That's who.

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We attacked Iraq without provocation... what should WE get?


I disagree with the premise that it was without provocation. Look through UN records, do some research . . .



What was the provocation??
WMDs?? You found a lot of them right?
Can't believe there are still people, in 2008, who still think Iraq was justified.
 
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Defending itself? Against what? Towel Heads in pick up trucks?

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Yeah you can see the irony? Attacking Saddam for violating the UN when you are violating the UN yourself. (let alone the handful of official UNSC resolutions your buddy buddy Israel is violating. Why don't you invade Israel for that too??)


The United States does not need permission from Russia, China, France, or the rest of the general assembly to defend itself.

And again, the US did not violate any UN resolutions in attacking Iraq.

So the UN is anti-semite, is that really a news flash?
 
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