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quote: Originally posted by KKL: quote: Originally posted by LuckyBreak: So McCain is just a racist SOB, with his own admittance?
Lucky, it is apparent you really don't quite understand the situation. You should probably refrain from commenting.
I sure don't because I am not a fan of a 72 years old bigot who is already failing before even becoming a president.
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quote: Originally posted by Graham T.: I hear ya, but can you at least see the difference between McCain's pastor and Rev. Wright? McCain can definately turn people off with his brashness, sometimes he does seem like a SOB but at least he stands stong for what he believes in even if it doesn't get him votes.
This is one thing I am honestly amazed. With all my non-fondness of the man, I must give him this, to be fair at least. I can't imagine how he stands these stances about Iraq and about the other issues when it's obvious these stances are exactly Bush's. It only means he really believes in these stances, however crap they are. I give him this, I must admit.
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quote: Originally posted by LuckyBreak: Attacking Iraq was self defense??
Did Iraq fire missiles at our planes?
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quote: point well taken it was denmark not sweeden but you get the idea
No you are wrong in assuming he gets the idea Bklyn. He is clueless at this point. 
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quote: Originally posted by KKL: quote: Originally posted by LuckyBreak: Attacking Iraq was self defense??
Did Iraq fire missiles at our planes?
What planes?
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quote: Originally posted by LuckyBreak: What planes?
no fly zone ring a bell?
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Sheep, can I have your email? I wanted to tell you something, I actually did post it in a topic before but I removed it because it was disrupting someone else's topic. I saved the message till I get the chance, but you don't have an email in your profile. Or email me soonadracula@yahoo.com
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quote: I sure don't because I am not a fan of a 72 years old bigot who is already failing before even becoming a president.
Come on you want a Democrat in the white house so he will be softer on terrorism. It does not matter who is in the White House this will not end any time soon.America is in it for the long haul of that we are all sure.
"Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God" -Thomas Jefferson
"The tree of freedom must be nurtured from time to time with the blood of its patriots" -Thomas Jefferson
"When the Government Fears the People, There is Liberty; When the People Fear the Government, There is Tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson
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quote: Originally posted by KKL: quote: Originally posted by LuckyBreak: What planes?
no fly zone ring a bell?
No seriously. Tell me.
______________________________ H.O.Roshdy.
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quote: Originally posted by Coriolanus: quote: We attacked Iraq without provocation... what should WE get?
I disagree with the premise that it was without provocation. Look through UN records, do some research . . .
There was certainly provocation - no arguments there at all. The open question is whether our response to that provocation was appropriate and in the long-term best interests of the US, the middle-east and the rest of the world. The jury is still out on that one, and it doesn't look good for Bush's place in the history books, at least for the moment. But I digres... There are differences between McCain and Obama, and the relationship they have with "spiritual leaders". They could both certainly handle things better, and this issue is costing them both votes. Of course, it's also gaining them votes in other areas - among their own particular brands of bigots; the future will tell where the balance lies. I think it's fair to bring McCain's issues up in public, as it was fair to do the same for Clinton and Obama. Their beliefs and the way that they act on those beliefs is certainly germain to the question of fitness to lead this country.
So many cigars, so little time...
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quote: Come on you want a Democrat in the white house so he will be softer on terrorism. It does not matter who is in the White House this will not end any time soon.America is in it for the long haul of that we are all sure.
This is why you fail at any discussion Sheep. You think I have a soft spot for "terrorism".... Sheep, who goes to the White House is not my concern, I said it before. I am against terrorism, but apparently your definition of terrorism is "everything that has to do with Islam and the Arab culture" which of course is bigoted.
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quote: Originally posted by LuckyBreak: quote: Originally posted by KKL: quote: Originally posted by LuckyBreak: What planes?
no fly zone ring a bell?
No seriously. Tell me. Link
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quote: Originally posted by KKL: quote: Originally posted by LuckyBreak: quote: Originally posted by KKL: quote: Originally posted by LuckyBreak: What planes?
no fly zone ring a bell?
No seriously. Tell me. Link
Yes, I know about the NFZ, I want to know about your planes that Iraq shot.
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quote: But it depends on how you want to see the verses. If you just want to see them offensive you will. The same can be applied to the bible and to all ancient religious texts.
Post the verses you are talking about and I will reply to each. But don't just post single verses because they will be out of context. Post full passages. In all the cases you will either find the verses recounting events that took place back then, or you will find verses making clear distinctions between what is said and what should be done and to whom.
Just post what you want me to clarify, no problem.
Lucky, I already mentioned two verses. Talk about them in any context you like. The only thing I ask is that you not worm your way out of talking about them by saying how they are "mistranslated."
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quote: Originally posted by LuckyBreak: Yes, I know about the NFZ, I want to know about your planes that Iraq shot.
"American and British aircraft continuously maintained the integrity of the NFZ, receiving anti-aircraft fire from Iraqi forces almost daily."
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Damn, Lucky, you are getting your *** handed to you. You should stick to posts in which you get forum-members to rank each other because you don't know **** about anything else.
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quote: Originally posted by Coriolanus: Damn, Lucky, you are getting your *** handed to you. You should stick to posts in which you get forum-members to rank each other because you don't know **** about anything else.
I was thinking the same thing.
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Come on everybody, can't you see all parties involved have their wrongs and theur rights. NOBODY here can claim they are the one with the absolute correct interpretation. I'll say this though : saying Islam, or Christianity for that matter, is evil is plain DUMB.
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quote: Islam and the Arab culture" which of course is bigoted.
No i just think a culture of people who raises there children to kill in the name of God is something the world can do without.High jacking aircraft and killing innocent people strapping bombs to oneself to kill others most recently throwing children off buildings as a religious ceremony these people are nuts.AS far as bigots go you my friend are an expert. Americans are fighting to save Arabs and instill a secure Government all you do i mock them every chance you get. Its called bitting the hand that feeds you.They have no respect for each other you mame and kill at will.
"Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God" -Thomas Jefferson
"The tree of freedom must be nurtured from time to time with the blood of its patriots" -Thomas Jefferson
"When the Government Fears the People, There is Liberty; When the People Fear the Government, There is Tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson
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