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quote: Re-read my post, Lucky. I could make the argument that the war in Iraq was a humanitarian effort given all the **** Saddam was doing to his people.
But let's not go over Iraq again. I have probably written 500 posts about it and it all never goes anywhere, especially with people who don't bother to actually read what other people say.
Why don't we discuss all the anti-semitic rhetoric in book 5 of the Koran. Why don't you tell me more about what a wonderful, peaceful, loving religion Islam is?
Ditto!
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| Posts: 4745 | Location: Reggio di Calabria, Italy / New York United States | Registered: July 12, 2007 | |
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quote: Why don't we discuss all the anti-semitic rhetoric in book 5 of the Koran. Why don't you tell me more about what a wonderful, peaceful, loving religion Islam is?
Nobody ever said the Quran was a Charlie the Choo Choo children's drawing book, so isn't the bible, nor the Talmud. But it depends on how you want to see the verses. If you just want to see them offensive you will. The same can be applied to the bible and to all ancient religious texts. Post the verses you are talking about and I will reply to each. But don't just post single verses because they will be out of context. Post full passages. In all the cases you will either find the verses recounting events that took place back then, or you will find verses making clear distinctions between what is said and what should be done and to whom. Just post what you want me to clarify, no problem.
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| Posts: 2124 | Location: Egypt | Registered: June 14, 2007 | |
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quote: Originally posted by A Work Of Art, Inc.:
We attacked Iraq without provocation... what should WE get?
I don't think any rational person can say there was not provocation to attack Iraq. Based on Saddam's defiance of UN Security Council resolutions alone proves it was not illegal for the US and its allies to overthrow the regime. Was the invasion in the best interest of the country? Well, that is certainly debatable. Provocation is not. |
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| Posts: 2260 | Location: WI | Registered: November 16, 2007 | |
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quote: Originally posted by SHEEPSHEAD BAY: quote: Drop it on what exactly Mr tough guy??
Hey look if you want to argue and express yourself on a forum where English is the primary language then learn it. The point that was to be made was the world in general is sick and tired of what goes on in the middle east.You live to kill each other what kind of life is that. What happened to you i remember some friend of yours died. You comment on how your mother told you to stop arguing and discussing politics with your friends on the forum.Your mother sounds like a smart women take her advise. Life is too short Lucky, trouble is no one really knows how Lucky they really are.
Hello hello... What brings my mother into this?? My mother never told me anything. My friend's mother died, that was the only time I mentioned the word "mother" in that post. And anyway, I think I can express my ideas very clearly using my language, you are the one just baffling and saying senseless statement. Either you know what you are saying or just shut up.
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| Posts: 2124 | Location: Egypt | Registered: June 14, 2007 | |
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quote: I don't think any rational person can say there was not provocation to attack Iraq. Based on Saddam's defiance of UN Security Council resolutions
So you defied the UNSC resolution and attacked Iraq because Iraq defied the UNSC resolutions...oh, the irony.
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| Posts: 2124 | Location: Egypt | Registered: June 14, 2007 | |
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islam is the same religion that went crazy in sweeden when its religion was made fun of. so yes i would agree islam is areligion of intolerance  |
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quote: Originally posted by bklynkid: islam is the same religion that went crazy in sweeden when its religion was made fun of. so yes i would agree islam is areligion of intolerance
It was Denmark.
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| Posts: 2124 | Location: Egypt | Registered: June 14, 2007 | |
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ok point well taken it was denmark not sweeden but you get the idea.  |
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quote: Originally posted by LuckyBreak:
So you defied the UNSC resolution and attacked Iraq because Iraq defied the UNSC resolutions...oh, the irony.
Which UNSC resolution are you referring to? |
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| Posts: 2260 | Location: WI | Registered: November 16, 2007 | |
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quote: Originally posted by KKL: quote: Originally posted by LuckyBreak:
So you defied the UNSC resolution and attacked Iraq because Iraq defied the UNSC resolutions...oh, the irony.
Which UNSC resolution are you referring to?
When the all members of the UN refused the war on Iraq except the US and the UK. It wasn't an official resolution, pardon me, but it was the general will of 13 members of the UNSC, as well as the general assembly.
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| Posts: 2124 | Location: Egypt | Registered: June 14, 2007 | |
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quote: Originally posted by LuckyBreak:
It wasn't an official resolution,
Exactly! oh, the irony... |
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| Posts: 2260 | Location: WI | Registered: November 16, 2007 | |
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quote: Originally posted by Graham T.:
Lucky-
I think the difference between MacCain's pastor and Rev. Wright is that McCain isn't claiming ignorance when it comes to his pastor's outrageous claims. People didn't care too much about Wright; he isn't running for office and most consider his "theories" an outright joke. What people did care about is how Obama claimed in 20 years of church services, a good friend and "spiritual advisor" didn't express these views to him. In all the years he never knew what Rev. Wright believed so strongly in. It's crap.
McCain doesn't try to hide or cover anything up.
In fact he still calls Viet-Cong "Go#ks" and refused to appologize. People may not like his style but he isn't trying dodge anyone. That's difference.
Well said. |
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| Posts: 2260 | Location: WI | Registered: November 16, 2007 | |
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quote: Originally posted by KKL: quote: Originally posted by LuckyBreak:
It wasn't an official resolution,
Exactly! oh, the irony...
Yeah you can see the irony? Attacking Saddam for violating the UN when you are violating the UN yourself. (let alone the handful of official UNSC resolutions your buddy buddy Israel is violating. Why don't you invade Israel for that too??)
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| Posts: 2124 | Location: Egypt | Registered: June 14, 2007 | |
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quote: Originally posted by Graham T.:
Lucky-
I think the difference between MacCain's pastor and Rev. Wright is that McCain isn't claiming ignorance when it comes to his pastor's outrageous claims. People didn't care too much about Wright; he isn't running for office and most consider his "theories" an outright joke. What people did care about is how Obama claimed in 20 years of church services, a good friend and "spiritual advisor" didn't express these views to him. In all the years he never knew what Rev. Wright believed so strongly in. It's crap.
McCain doesn't try to hide or cover anything up.
In fact he still calls Viet-Cong "Go#ks" and refused to appologize. People may not like his style but he isn't trying dodge anyone. That's difference.
As far as the Iraq war no one at this point is gonna change anyone else's stance on it.
So McCain is just a racist SOB, with his own admittance? It's funny how such actions would be heavily condemned if it was against the holy Israel. But since it's against someone else then it's no problem.
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| Posts: 2124 | Location: Egypt | Registered: June 14, 2007 | |
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quote: Originally posted by LuckyBreak:
Yeah you can see the irony? Attacking Saddam for violating the UN when you are violating the UN yourself. (let alone the handful of official UNSC resolutions your buddy buddy Israel is violating. Why don't you invade Israel for that too??)
The United States does not need permission from Russia, China, France, or the rest of the general assembly to defend itself. And again, the US did not violate any UN resolutions in attacking Iraq. So the UN is anti-semite, is that really a news flash? |
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| Posts: 2260 | Location: WI | Registered: November 16, 2007 | |
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quote: Originally posted by Graham T.:
He didn't say Vietnamese people in general. He said Viet Cong.
And after years being tortured by the Viet Cong I think I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
It could be personal yeah  He's not a guy I am inclined to anyway.
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| Posts: 2124 | Location: Egypt | Registered: June 14, 2007 | |
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quote: Originally posted by LuckyBreak:
So McCain is just a racist SOB, with his own admittance?
Lucky, it is apparent you really don't quite understand the situation. You should probably refrain from commenting. |
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| Posts: 2260 | Location: WI | Registered: November 16, 2007 | |
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quote: Originally posted by KKL: quote: Originally posted by LuckyBreak:
Yeah you can see the irony? Attacking Saddam for violating the UN when you are violating the UN yourself. (let alone the handful of official UNSC resolutions your buddy buddy Israel is violating. Why don't you invade Israel for that too??)
The United States does not need permission from Russia, China, France, or the rest of the general assembly to defend itself. And again, the US did not violate any UN resolutions in attacking Iraq. So the UN is anti-semite, is that really a news flash?
Attacking Iraq was self defense?? Oh and yeah, the UN must be a bad anti-Semite entity because they dare question the actions of Israel; the holy, the unquestioned, the almighty. All hail. I wonder why is the US a member of such a bad "anti-Semitic" organization.
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