Originally posted by jagmqt: Pats vs. Packers in the big game?
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And the result will be the same as the 1996 Super Bowl.
I'm fine with that! I'm a Pack fan born and raised, but I've liked Tom Brady since his back-up days at U of M...Nothing would make me happier, though, then to see Brett Favre end the Pat's streak for the title...
(well, a couple of things would make me happier, but this is not the appropriate place to discuss that)
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Posts: 1355 | Location: Moving in December | Registered: September 15, 2006
"In shouting down the Steelers, the 13-0 Pats sent a message of their own: Put up or shut up"
It ain't all been pretty and it's far from over, but let's see- Beat San Diego, Dallas in Dallas, Colts at home in Indy, and now Pittsburg.
Most Patriot fans know, its ok to talk about what's happened so far, but not what's yet to come.
Yesterday's thrashing of what is supposed to be a good Steeler team makes us all feel better after the last couple weeks. Getting home to The Razor and playing in front of our fans helped, so did the adreneline rush to beat the talkative kid safety. How about Brady getting in his face after the 1st TD, and looking pretty cool towering over him by half a foot. LMAO. Then the Brady to Moss to Brady to Gaffney play was like a dagger, and it rocked The Razor and the fans were going nuts the rest of the day. What about Welker catching 5 in a row after the Steelers were shaken by the deep balls? Beautiful. In the end the shell shocked Steelers didn't know what was coming at them next.
GO PATRIOTS!
Posts: 466 | Location: New England | Registered: May 02, 2003
Steelers are a mediocre team at best this year. Beating a team that lost to the jets is nothing to boast about.
Plus, historically, anytime some moron "guarantees" a win, his team is pretty much given an automatic loss.
Patriots could have just as easily come out with losses to both the Ravens and Eagles. IMO, Patriots lost to the Ravens. They were outplayed for nearly the entire game and some really extremely fortunate turn of events saved them from losing possession 3 times in their game winning drive. Cowboys and Colts could have gone the other way as well, although not quite as close as the other two games.
GO COLTS! We are really the only team who has anything to play for or any postseason hopes that gave them a game. WE had them beat until the final 7 minutes of the game! ARRRRGH! It was incredibly frustrating.
Withouht Freeny, it will be difficult, but I know we can at least run the ball against the AARP Linebacking corps and try to dictate the game. If we get to Foxboro I like our chances, especially if the weather is gross. Throwing the long ball doesn't work if it's windy and the Pats can't (they don't need to) run the ball very well.
Posts: 933 | Location: Indianapolis | Registered: October 19, 2007
Not as frustrating as our loss in Indy in last year's AFC Championship game.
sobek- that's a lot of should'a, would'a could'a and one team that is 13 - 0. I am sure that you know this NFL well enough that there's got to be some good luck, calls and bounces for any team to get to 13 - 0... And yep, we've had some. That T/O called by a Ravens coach was a freakin killer for them.
All I want is to get to the Superbowl - then if we are good enough and deserve to win it, we will.
Posts: 466 | Location: New England | Registered: May 02, 2003
Okay, but your opinion doesn't show up in the loss column.
Besides, if a team is gonna meltdown under stress and give Tom Brady three shots at a 4th down conversion, we'll take it, and thanks. The point being, the good teams manage to salvage wins from desperate situations.
Not sure which Cowboys game you're thinking of that coulda gone the other way. This year, it was NE 48 Dallas 27 (which includes a Cowboys garbage time score).
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Posts: 4038 | Location: Boston | Registered: April 16, 2005
Originally posted by Jack White: Okay, but your opinion doesn't show up in the loss column.
Besides, if a team is gonna meltdown under stress and give Tom Brady three shots at a 4th down conversion, we'll take it, and thanks. The point being, the good teams manage to salvage wins from desperate situations.
Sure doesn't show up in the win column...much like how Colorado beat MO with 5 downs several years ago. The end result does not reflect the real winner.
How can you call that a meltdown?? That's ridiculous. The ref gave an illegal TO to an assistant coach, and didn't get the whistle off till after the ball was snapped. Game was over right there.
Then later on 4th down ref calls holding on a TE that was at most 1 yd past the 5 yd bump zone....on a triple covered receiver who would have never caught the ball anyways. Mauling the TE like that is done all game long in almost every NFL game. Calling it at that time in the game was absolutely idiotic. You can pretty much call it every play if a ref really wanted to. Saving it for a crucial 4th down...and on a TE, not a wide out, is moronic.
You call that a meltdown? Then they give a TD to Gaffey who didn't have possession on his way out the endzone.
That's 3 ref blunders that gave away the game. I'm not even counting the lucky false start that gave the patriots another down when they could have lost possession then too.
You're also not mentioning the fact that Wes Welker was being mauled every play, and the fact that everytime a Patriots player got into the Baltimore backfield he was being held.
There were blown calls that benefited both teams. The Patriots have had more bad calls go against them than benefit them this year.
The fact of the matter is that the Pats have beaten every top-team in the league that they've played. A vicotry is a victory, regardles of by how much.
Posts: 464 | Location: North of Boston | Registered: April 23, 2007
Yeah great win over a steeler team that lost a couple of weeks ago to the jets.The toughest game for the Pats is going to be the Giants,They are the only team left that has a good chance of beating the Pats.
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Posts: 4745 | Location: Reggio di Calabria, Italy / New York United States | Registered: July 12, 2007
Apparently everyone is a Pats fan. Bandwagon much? Kinda reminds me of how when the Steelers won the super bowl a few years ago you saw steelers magnets stuck to the back of everyone's cars
Posts: 114 | Location: Blacksburg | Registered: October 07, 2007
Huh? Of course it does. It's right there at #12. Out of 13.
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The ref gave an illegal TO to an assistant coach, and didn't get the whistle off till after the ball was snapped
Nothing illegal about it. The Ravens sideline wanted a time out before the play and it was the assistant's job to call it. Replay shows he clearly did before the ball was snapped, no question. Bad timing for them, good luck for the Pats.
What are you, sobek, a Jets fan?
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Apparently everyone is a Pats fan. Bandwagon much?
Kinda silly to accuse us of jumping on a bandwagon, ccoch, when the Patriots have won three of the last six Super Bowls, and eight out of the last nine division titles (including six in a row).
Yeah, that's what I call jumping on the bandwagon.
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Posts: 4038 | Location: Boston | Registered: April 16, 2005
Originally posted by Jack White: Huh? Of course it does. It's right there at #12. Out of 13.
Meant it doesn't show up in the Raven's win column.
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Nothing illegal about it. The Ravens sideline wanted a time out and it was the assistant's job to call it. Replay shows he clearly did before the ball was snapped, no question. Bad timing for them, good luck for the Pats.
Wrong. Only players on the field and head coaches can call a TO. Assistant coaches are not, by NFL rule, allowed to call TOs. The TO should never have been granted. Also, the whistle was blown after the snap.
Originally posted by Jonesy107: There were blown calls that benefited both teams. The Patriots have had more bad calls go against them than benefit them this year.
Give me a break. The old "we got fouled too, but was never called" justification? That's absurd.
Refs simply should not make mickey mouse calls when they can alter the entire outcome of the game... especially not in the last minutes of a game. It should never be done, Patriot game or not. If that was a Superbowl game, I bet that the ref who made that holding call to give the Patriots a fresh set of downs and the win would never ref another game ever again.
Wrong. Only players on the field and head coaches can call a TO. Assistant coaches are not, by NFL rule, allowed to call TOs.
Head coaches must call the TO, but an assistant can signal it, in effect, relaying the coach's call to the officials. Look it up.
The timout is called from the sideline, it will commence at that point, not at the official's whistle.
'Question authority. Think for yourself. Filter out the spin. Engage elected officials critically. Make them defend what they're doing in your name. Derive the truth. Speak truth to power.'
Posts: 4038 | Location: Boston | Registered: April 16, 2005
Originally posted by Jack White: Head coaches must call the TO, but an assistant can signal it, in effect, relaying the coach's call to the officials. Look it up.
The timout is called from the sideline, it will commence at that point, not at the official's whistle.
Wrong Jack. It was all discussed on NFL network. The TO should not have been granted. Some refs do it because they make assumptions and up until now it has not altered the outcome of a game so it has never come into question.
