Rather than answer mindless rhetoric I will bring up a new point.

I do not hold ANY of the soldiers responsible for the deaths, injuries or humiliations suffered by Iraqi citizens. What has happened was perfectly predictable.


The responsibility rests uniquely upon the managers of this whole situation.
They were told by thousands that going to Iraq was going to ignite a powder keg of resentment.

This is not a football game. This is a life and death struggle of a small country (albeit full of misguided desperate maniacs) that is being occupied by a foreign power (albeit for reasons transparent and reasons obscure).

But lets pretend it is a football game.
What do you propose?
Send 500,000 troops there?

hydragoat:

"I do not hold ANY of the soldiers responsible..."


I'm sure they're greatly relieved.

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Originally posted by hydragoat:

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Originally posted by Raven35031:
Our liberal press is quick to play up alleged miss-conduct and rairly admit when they were wrong.

Wake up and smell the coffee Raven.

The situation there is not good and no amount of candy coating can change that.

Just because you can toast marshmallows on burning collateral damage does that mean that the liberal press is wrong for not reporting that as good side.

I never saw any marshmallowa toasting in Iraq.

So according to you none of the military folks in Iraq have done anything positive over there?

Remember there is not one soldier in Iraq or served in Iraq that had any say in in our deployment there.

Yes the liberal press is wrong for reporting only stories that supports their liberal anti Bush and anti war in Iraq. They should be unbiased and show both good and bad of what we are doing there. That is what makes a good reporter and a good news source not the one sided reporting the liberal press loves to tell the citizens of our country.

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Originally posted by hydragoat:

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Originally posted by Raven35031:
However, it would be nice to see folks like cigarmanron have to do a tour in Iraq....

Why? Could u pleze elaborate?

You are tripping yourself up with your obtuse doubled edged comebacks my friend.

Maybe if you had to do a tour there as a member of our military you would have a different view of the situation there. You would have a different view on the one sided reporting of the liberal press. This could even change your entire view on politics.

does that mean that Fox reports in an open fashion,giving both sides enough room to express the opinion or is Fox even worse one sided and intolerant than any so called liberal press ?

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Originally posted by blackie1:
does that mean that Fox reports in an open fashion,giving both sides enough room to express the opinion or is Fox even worse one sided and intolerant than any so called liberal press ?

FOX News is more ballenced than CNN, CBS and the BBC.

ok thanks for the answer.

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Originally posted by Raven35031:
....Yes the liberal press is wrong for reporting only stories that supports their liberal anti Bush and anti war in Iraq


....They should be unbiased and show both good and bad of what we are doing there.

Raven,
The liberal press may be doing a disservice to the American political cause in Iraq by harping about bombs, deaths and gaffes.

But the same press will focus on bombs, deaths and gaffes all over the world whether Bush or the United States are involved or not.

Should the press focus on the good things? Perhaps yes, but what would consitute equal coverage?
Is reporting about a bomb that kills 50 counterbalanced by reporting about a ribbon cutting for a new high school and the reopening of a village's war damaged water supply?

At what point would this be perceived as cynical? At what point would it appear trivialize death & injury?

And what is the ultimate goal of reporting good news?
It could easily be seen as abject propaganda similar to what passed for news in the coldwar USSR and China. Everybody singing merrily to the music of the revolution.

Would we want good news to increase recruitement into the military, increase funding and increase the total comittment into that theater of operations?

Just to stay on the topic of the thread, I am not sure why anybody would think that the troops involved were going to ever be found anything but innocent.. Did you really think that they would be found "guilty".?? It does not mean they are innocent, but everybody with a brain in these United States had to know what the outcome would be.
As far as the arguing about the current affairs in Iraq, well there is no intelligent sense made of us being there. But that should be another thread topic.