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As requested by one of the members here.

I have noticed recently that there seems to be a lot of questions about humidification beads. Some of the questions are repeated when new folks join this fine place. I was prompted by a fine BOTL, csmithnj, to write up some information about the use, care and feeding of humidification beads so here goes.

Let’s start with the basics.

Humidification beads are a moisture sensitive silica material which absorbs and desorbs moisture in order to offset changes in relative humidity (RH). The beads are generally available preset to a specific RH, in the case of cigars 65% and 70%. Opinions differ as to what is the “best” RH for cigars but most BOTLs seem to prefer 65% and that is my experience as well.

Humidification beads were first developed for the art and museum industry and are used extensively by that industry for the stable storage of priceless artifacts and art. The manufacturer I purchase the beads I sell also supplies places such as the Smithsonian and The National Archives.

A question that is often asked; “Are humidification beads the same as ordinary desiccant silica gel?” Definitely NOT! Humidification beads give off water vapor, as well as absorb it, to maintain a specific RH which is ideal for a cigars particular need. This is not the case with silica gel which can only absorb water then must be dried out after it is saturated. By nature silica gel is not meant to control humidity, only lower it. Humidification beads are the premier product for precise control in terms of performance, cost effectiveness, and simplicity.

One good point to remember is humidification beads have an indefinite life span. There is nothing to wear out and all that is needed to maintain them is either the addition of distilled water or the drying out of the beads if they become water logged.

The question I get asked the most is, “How much do I need for my ______?”

Here are some quantities for various containers.
5 cubic feet requires 1 pound of humidification beads.
1/3 pound of beads per 50 quarts (coolerdors)
1 ounce of beads per 50 count in a desktop humi (so a 100 count would need 2 ounces, 150 count 3 ounces etc.)
For our metric friends: Each pound of beads will condition 141,584.233 cubic centimeters.

Calculating the cubic area of your humi:
Measure the depth, width and height of you humi (example is 24” depth, 36” wide and 48” height)
Multiply the three; 24x36x48=41472 cubic inches
Divide 41472 by 1728 (number of cubic inches in a cubic foot) 41472/1728= 24 cubic feet
Divide the cubic feet by 5 (number of cubic feet per pound) 24/5 = 4.8
You would need 4.8 pounds of humidification beads for this humi.

Another question that keeps coming up is; “How do I add distilled water to the beads when they get dry?”

There are a number of ways to do this;

You can just pour distilled water on the beads and pour off the excess. A lot of folks do it this way but the beads can fracture when it is done this way. One thing to remember, fracturing will not affect the efficiency of the beads or ruin them in any way, they will still do their job.

You can put a container of distilled water, like a bowl, next to the beads and let them absorb the distilled water in this way. When they have absorbed all they can remove the bowl. This method is effective but takes a while for the beads to absorb the water.

A method developed by a BOTL at Cigar Utopia is very easy. Place a paper towel that has been wet down with distilled water on the beads. They will soak up the moisture and re-charge.

The method I use and prefer is using a spray bottle. I purchased an inexpensive spray bottle at the grocery store and filled it with distilled water. When the beads need water I just spray them until they have absorbed enough distilled water. This method will work well if you have the beads in a bag or dish.

Another question is; If my beads are going white, should I add distilled water until they are all clear?

The optimal is to have about 60% of them clear. Don't try to get them all clear because if you do they cannot absorb any sudden rise in humidity in your humi.

Another question is; “What do I put the beads in?”

A great variety of containers are possible. You can use a drawstring filter bag, place the beads in a shot glass or small dish, put them is a leftover container with holes drilled in the lid, nylon stockings (be careful stealing them from your wife or significant other) or any other container. The main point of whatever container you choose is to have the greatest amount of surface area as possible. If possible the beads should be no more than 1 to 1 ½ inches deep, this way they will work the best.

Lastly we will deal with; “How can I tell when the beads need water?”

This is very easy. The color of the beads is the dead give away. When they are full of distilled water they are pretty much clear and when they are completely dried out they are a bright white. Believe me you will be able to tell the difference.

You may have noticed that every time I mention the fluid that is added to the beads I say “distilled water”. This is extremely important, anything other than distilled water will ultimately ruin the beads. All the impurities in tap water will be drawn in by the beads and remain there. Ultimately the beads will get plugged up and not work anymore. The same is tru with any type of humidifier solution (also known as 50/50 solution) this will also ruin the beads in the long run.

As I think of other things or as questions rise I will edit this post and add that information. I hope this helps. One thing I do want to make clear is that I am still happy to answer any questions that you may have. This post is in no way meant to keep you from asking me.
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Viper,

Thank you for posting this. I have been debating picking up a pound, to have around incase I get around to building a coolerdor, or other humidor.

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Will the efficiency of the beads decrease with larger humidors/coolerdors? Obviously one will have to add more beads (as explained above), but is there a point where one might be better off employing an active humidification unit (Oasis) instead?

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Very informative post Viper. Good idea Wink.


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great thread.... now i dont have to be "singled"out for askin a stupid question...
 
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Will the efficiency of the beads decrease with larger humidors/coolerdors? Obviously one will have to add more beads (as explained above), but is there a point where one might be better off employing an active humidification unit (Oasis) instead?

Thanks.


Really there is not limit to the size of cabinet the beads can work in, you just need more beads. Most folks use an active system when the cabinet goes over 25 cubic feet (5 pounds of beads).


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great thread, thanks viper, this has answered all the questions i've been wondering...


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I was just wondering yesterday if the beads I have that have been out of my humidor and dry for months were still good. Answers my question!

Thanks for the awesome post Viper139!

This is the kind of excellent information that makes this such a great forum. ..... Oh, and all the regulars of course. Wink


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Hey Viper, I did the math and figured out that I need 3 oz. of beads to properly humidify my new humi. So that means that I would need 1 large tube and 1 medium tube? Just wanted to make sure I had it right before I ordered. Thanks Big Grin.


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That would be correct.

One thing you may think about is getting two large humi tubes. This will increase the amount of time that the beads work without needing to be recharged with distilled water. Your choice though.


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Thanks for the great info and the link.


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That would be correct.

One thing you may think about is getting two large humi tubes. This will increase the amount of time that the beads work without needing to be recharged with distilled water. Your choice though.


Other than needing to be recharged sooner, is there any functional downside to having 1 large and 1 medium? I was leery of having more beads in there than I needed.


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There is no down side at all. The beads will maintain the correct rh no matter how much you put in the humi. I just wanted to give you that option.


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Originally posted by Viper139:
That would be correct.

One thing you may think about is getting two large humi tubes. This will increase the amount of time that the beads work without needing to be recharged with distilled water. Your choice though.



Other than needing to be recharged sooner, is there any functional downside to having 1 large and 1 medium? I was leery of having more beads in there than I needed.


Just one reminder, I am in the process of moving my home and business. Any orders made after the 9th will not be filled until the move is complete. So if anyone including yourself wishes to place an order do it by the 9th unless you cna wait. Just wanted all to know.


Good call Viper, I just placed my order. Thanks for the heads up Wink.


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I bought these beads about a month ago and they're working perfectly. No more messing with foam.

I went with the 65% and my tunneling issue is gone.


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I think I am also going to start using these. Viper139 let us know when your settled in and what the new site is.
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The site will be the same. I am moving my home and my shop so everything is getting packed up for the move. As soon as I get settled I will post to let you all know.


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Thanks viper I just ordered them. Now I just have less time to wait. Smile


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Disappointed.

I was going to place my order for 1/2lb beads and a small tube, but given the payment choices, I am not going to. I have had bad experiences with paypal in the past, and prefer credit cards over check/money order.

Guess I'll just have to continue waiting before getting these.

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