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quote: Originally posted by SHEEPSHEAD BAY: Your stupidity never ceases to amaze.
that was a bit uncalled for.
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| Posts: 1117 | Location: Houma, LA | Registered: June 04, 2004 |    |
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quote: Originally posted by SHEEPSHEAD BAY: quote: Are these the same idiots that revere rats and monkeys and cows?
Yes in fact they are they are also the same idiots that many American soldiers are dying for and becoming injured for the rest of there lives for everyday.
Actually, the ethnic, religious and cultural diversity is quite astounding in those parts of the world. It is not very wise to make sweeping generalisations based on skin color, as you may know...
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| Posts: 2182 | Location: Mt-St-Hilaire, Quebec | Registered: June 21, 2006 |    |
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quote: Easy, chief. What did I say to you to deserve that?
American soldiers are fighting in India? Huh. I had no idea. You have thrown the rock and now you wish to hide your hand? Your comments comparing circumcision's to tossing an innocent child off a building where bad enough. But then you are going to make sarcastic remarks about fighting in India. You know what the comment meant we are fighting that whole culture in the middle east. If you where not being sarcastic and are honestly that stupid then please except my apology.
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| Posts: 3733 | Location: Reggio di Calabria, Italy / New York United States | Registered: July 12, 2007 |    |
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Sheep, I can vouch for Scott. He meant no insult in his comments.
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quote: Actually, the ethnic, religious and cultural diversity is quite astounding in those parts of the world. It is not very wise to make sweeping generalisations based on skin color, as you may know..
Another country heard from. My comment has nothing to do with skin color you know me better than that Nick. Quite frankly i am shocked by that comment i thought you where much smarter. We are fighting that whole Muslim culture in the middle east thats all that comment meant. To twist and contort it to something else is sad indeed. Maybe some have a little to much time on there hands. I am not an expert on that culture and i doubt you are either when i see one type of Muslim flying airplanes into buildings. The other type throwing innocent children off of buildings. Still another strapping bombs on themselves and blowing up buses full of women and children it leads me to believe that there way of life is something the world can do without.
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| Posts: 3733 | Location: Reggio di Calabria, Italy / New York United States | Registered: July 12, 2007 |    |
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quote: Sheep,
I can vouch for Scott. He meant no insult in his comments.
Thats good enough for me Thanks Steve. That whole thing just got me very upset. One again to all involved in this discussion i do apology for my outburst.
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| Posts: 3733 | Location: Reggio di Calabria, Italy / New York United States | Registered: July 12, 2007 |    |
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There are a lot of things on the planet that i will never understand its logic. This is definitely one of them. not sure what the point is here, but more importantly, if it can even be justified.
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quote: We are fighting that whole Muslim culture in the middle east thats all that comment meant.
India, which is not in the middle east, is only about 12% Muslim, Sheep. 80% of Indians are Hindu.
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| Posts: 2641 | Location: Boston | Registered: April 16, 2005 |    |
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The ritual seems quite important to the people practicing it. They are not pushing their beliefs on anyone else, nor do they expect any of us to do what they are doing. From what was said in the video, no children are known to have been hurt as a result of this (personnally I would doubt that but I can't prove anything). It is shocking to watch and seems silly at best to us but if they're not harming anybody, so what? Plenty of cultures around the world perform bizarre practices which put their children in danger, doing so because the danger is outweighed by the perceived benefits. It seems bizarre to us because it is not part of our culture.
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| Posts: 1043 | Location: Dublin | Registered: November 29, 2006 |    |
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I guess these are extremes.In one country throwing a child off a building is culture.In America i have a friend who i visit when i am in New York.He caught his 13 year old daughter well i won't get into details.To make a long story short he hit her on the butt.She complained at school to the nurse she called those people that monitor child abuse.The things they didn't put this poor guy through.Extremes in culture indeed. On a lighter note watch this video and see how wrong discrimination really is. http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2008/03/29/how-muslims-are-treated-in-usa/
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"The tree of freedom must be nurtured from time to time with the blood of its patriots" -Thomas Jefferson
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| Posts: 3733 | Location: Reggio di Calabria, Italy / New York United States | Registered: July 12, 2007 |    |
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quote: Originally posted by Jack White: quote: We are fighting that whole Muslim culture in the middle east thats all that comment meant.
India, which is not in the middle east, is only about 12% Muslim, Sheep. 80% of Indians are Hindu.
+1... these were Hindus, and not Muslims... now, as a bizarre of a ritual as this is, it is not for anyone to mock.... if the Indians looked at some of your rituals and traditions, they might think you all are a bunch of you-kow-what... and as a general info for all of you, it's the cows that are sacred in India.. that's it.. no rats, monkeys, horses or any other animal...
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| Posts: 2239 | Location: Montreal, QC | Registered: November 02, 2005 |    |
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And, for the record: Yes, I am against the cutting, slicing, or amputation of any person's genitals, or part thereof, without their explicit permission. Didn't realize that was such a wacky, out-there position.
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| Posts: 1459 | Location: New York/Denver | Registered: August 05, 2005 |    |
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These people are in fact Muslims here is the paragraph that goes with the video. Muslims in western India have been observing a bizarre ritual - they've been throwing their young children off a tall building to improve their health. The faithful have been observing the ritual at a shrine in Solapur, in western India's Maharastra, for more than five hundred years. They believe it will make their children strong and say no accidents have ever happened. Once again the link try watching it this time instead of witch hunting. Quite frankly i expect that from Jack White or Scott it is there posture on this forum. Quite frankly Flashman and Salibus you guys shocked me i thought i knew you better. Her is the link pay attention. http://www.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=81490&videoChannel=1
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"The tree of freedom must be nurtured from time to time with the blood of its patriots" -Thomas Jefferson
"When the Government Fears the People, There is Liberty; When the People Fear the Government, There is Tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson
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| Posts: 3733 | Location: Reggio di Calabria, Italy / New York United States | Registered: July 12, 2007 |    |
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quote: +1... these were Hindus, and not Muslims...
They most certainly were not! You said you were bored Sal. Here you go.
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| Posts: 3733 | Location: Reggio di Calabria, Italy / New York United States | Registered: July 12, 2007 |    |
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quote: Quite frankly i expect that from Jack White or Scott it is there posture on this forum.
LOL. Jeez, all I said was only 12% of Indians were Muslims. I can't find any reference I made to the people in the video. C'mon, Scott ... watch your posture! Stand up straight. Shoulders back.
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| Posts: 2641 | Location: Boston | Registered: April 16, 2005 |    |
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quote: Originally posted by SHEEPSHEAD BAY: quote: +1... these were Hindus, and not Muslims...
They most certainly were not! You said you were bored Sal. Here you go.
well you're right Sheep... oups.. I guess I should learn to listen better... ah well.... I'm still bored... 
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| Posts: 2239 | Location: Montreal, QC | Registered: November 02, 2005 |    |
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quote: LOL. Jeez, all I said was only 12% of Indians were Muslims. I can't find any reference I made to the people in the video.
You always leave yourself enough room to wiggle out Jack. Sort of like a snake in the grass 
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"The tree of freedom must be nurtured from time to time with the blood of its patriots" -Thomas Jefferson
"When the Government Fears the People, There is Liberty; When the People Fear the Government, There is Tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson
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| Posts: 3733 | Location: Reggio di Calabria, Italy / New York United States | Registered: July 12, 2007 |    |
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[quote]And, for the record: Yes, I am against the cutting, slicing, or amputation of any person's genitals, or part thereof, without their explicit permission. Then you should be against the Arab tradition of castrating women removing there clitoris.So as they have no desire for men this allows the sheik to have many wives without fear of his wives being with other men. Circumcision is removal of extra skin it has nothing to do with mutilating genitals i just gave you an example of what is. I thought you went to college. 
"Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God" -Thomas Jefferson
"The tree of freedom must be nurtured from time to time with the blood of its patriots" -Thomas Jefferson
"When the Government Fears the People, There is Liberty; When the People Fear the Government, There is Tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson
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| Posts: 3733 | Location: Reggio di Calabria, Italy / New York United States | Registered: July 12, 2007 |    |
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