I was checking out JR's web page and was noticing how cheap these things are.

Now I know they're not Cuban, and I know that they won't taste exactly like the Cuban they're modeled after, but are they good smokes for the money?

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I've only smoked a couple throughout the years, so I'm sure there are others more knowledgeable. They were OK, but definitely NOTHING like any cuban cigar that I ever smoked IMO.

In heaven there ain't no beer,
that's why I drink it here.

i used to order alot of bundles of the cohiba robusto. most people here, that have commented on them say that the robusto isn't too bad.

just keep in mind that they are real cheap and don't have much flavor. they are what they are, a cheap everyday smoke that won't jack up your credit cards.

for the record, i've never smoked any of the other JR cuban alts except for the cohiba. i have smoked alot of the regular JR alt line though. then i discovered the "consuegras".

bruce

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Originally posted by Neth:
I was checking out JR's web page and was noticing how cheap these things are.

Now I know they're not Cuban, and I know that they won't taste exactly like the Cuban they're modeled after, but are they good smokes for the money?

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One thing to keep in mind is that they don't come from a uniform source. It's like each type comes from different makers... I've really enjoyed the Bolivar corona gigante Cuban Alternative. For the money, it's a great smoke. You have to try a bundle of what interests you and see what the quality is like...

-J.

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Thanks for your responses. From your responses, it's just like most sticks, try 'em and find what you like. If they happen to be cheap, then it's all the better.

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that stuff is the biggest horse crap.Why don't you try to get some real ones ? Its fairly easy and defenately worth it.

Listen to B&S. Te Amos are available on a multitude of websites.

Mike

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heheeheh the Te amos cult.........

B&S - I rarely spend more than a couple of bucks on a cigar, and I don't want to be one of those guys that posts "Hey where can you get Cubans"

And as far as the Te Amos go, that was the first cigar that I had where I realized, that cigars have some interesting flavors if you take the time to notice them.

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Neth, I had a Cohiba Robusto JR Cuban Alt just yesterday -- I order a bundle about a month ago.

They're okay. Not great, not bad. But the Consuegras I got -- fantastic!

SURFING! -- I'd rather be riding my BicSport Mini-Malibu 7-3!

I think I'll head over to the JR store afterwork today, and pick up some of the Consuegras.

Thanks all for the input.

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I got the No. 9 Rothschild, Maduro.

SURFING! -- I'd rather be riding my BicSport Mini-Malibu 7-3!

I have only one experience with JR cuban alts, the cohiba siglo IV alts. I have to say that for the price they weren't that bad. I wouldn't say they are a great stick, but definately worth a try if you are on a budget.

When you say they weren't that bad. Are you still saying that they are bad. What is the price per stick you are paying. And are they better than say curly tops from A.F. .......Also if you are looking for a smoke that gives you cuban flavor why not get a real cuban cigar. There are plenty that are the lower line cigars but are still good cigars at a cost of about 2.50 each. deals are out there ya gotta do your home work.. I am all for finding a good cigar at a low price. just for an every day smoke or to place in the moochador. But why by a knock off when you can get the real thing for about the same price. I am not saying JR's siglo IV taste like Cohibas Siglo IV cause that is just stupid. JR.s maybe good but they are not the same.. I am saying in a long winded way is that if you want Cuban tabacco flavor go to the source. Yes there are low price authentic Cuban cigars out there..... If you want A.F tasting cigars get Curly tops. because thats their short filler cigar. I hope I helped in some small way .. Good luck and Good Smoking
Disel

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Originally posted by diselfitter:
But why by a knock off when you can get the real thing for about the same price.
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Well, as I said, I was looking for an inexpensive cigar that is an enjoyable smoke. (I AM NOT LOOKING FOR SOURCES) I don't know where to buy Cuban's, and from what I've read, even if I did, I wouldn't find them at a price of less than $2 each which is the price of the JR Alt's. I guess if you're paying that price for Cuban's (Cohiba's at that), you are buying genuine counterfeits.

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neth good cigars have somewhat of a price.maybe you should smoke less but better stuff,or simply wait until you actually can afford to smoke cigars.

look fact is for 2 dollars or around there,there are basically dogrockets available.what is the point in smoking something like that ? better not to smoke at all.

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neth good cigars have somewhat of a price.maybe you should smoke less but better stuff,or simply wait until you actually can afford to smoke cigars.QUOTE]

B&S - I realize that "good" is a subjective term. What I can afford isn't the issue. I can afford to spend more on cigars. I have found that there are cigars that I enjoy that are in the $2-4 price range. So I don't feel that there is a need to spend more. I'm just looking to expand my list of what to choose from, and have some dialogue.

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well Neth don't get me wrong.Its my way of life , I prefer quality over quantity.So I would spend 14.-- USD on Partagas Lusitania and smoke that than a 4 dollar one that tries to be like one.Ok I will smoke like 4 times less but the 1.5 -2 hrs I smoke a real Lusis I really smoke one of the best.After you have done that you just won't go back to the 4 dollars.

anyway smoke what you enjoy.i guess you have got the answer you were looking for.All I say is quality vs quantity.Its what it boils down to.

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Originally posted by blackandschools:
I prefer quality over quantity.So I would spend 14.-- USD on Partagas Lusitania and smoke that than a 4 dollar one that tries to be like one.

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You are equating price and quality. Yes, most often quality goes up with price. Is that allways the case? I doubt it. Is there a linear relationship between price and quality? I doubt that too.

I look at the quality for the $s I'm willing to spend. If I can get the quality I enjoy for $2 why should I pay $14. If I didn't enjoy the $2 cigar then sure I'd spend more. I just guess my standards aren't as high as yours.

I'm just looking at the law of diminishing returns and figuring that I won't enjoy a $14 cigar 3.5 times as much as a $4 cigar (or 7 times as much as a $2 cigar) so I'm happy with my $2 smokes.

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The alternatives IMO have a few things in common across the board cuban-alts and NC-alts.
They all draw fairly well (meaning I'VE never had a bad draw on one) and they all are fairly smooth.

I have never had one taste like a cuban or the cuban it was alt'ing. However, many of the blends used have some decent, well cured tobacco in them and for the price, they smoke better than at least half of the domestically available cigars on the market. If you have to be a buyer of the "it" brand of cigars and chase the ads, they will sit in your humidor unsmoked because there's always something new out there to smoke.
If it's strictly a price and flavor concern and you would smoke alot of them if they were good, then you will be well pleased AND you will save money. You know what they say, once you peel off the band, you can call it whatever you want!

Many of the people here with ready access to cubans will tell you not to waste your time and money, but that's their privelege isn't it?