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A UK judge says Al's propaganda piece needs to carry a disclaimer about its disregard for the truth...and Gore is ready to win the Nobel Peace Prize...love the irony..."here's your prize, Mr Gore, you fraud"...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/7037671.stm


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A UK judge says Al's propaganda piece needs to carry a disclaimer about its disregard for the truth
The judge does not have the competence to make an assessment of whether points of science are, in fact, correct or incorrect.

In order to rule on this issue in the UK, he enlisted the aid and advice of specific scientific advisors known for being climate change deniers, who offered their opinions to Her Majesty's court -- opinions -- that those nine points in Mr. Gore's film were in error. The judge then put forward those opinions as indisputable facts, which they clearly are not. In doing so, in my view, the judge was not only wrong, but egregiously so.

Another panel of advisors would have given the judge a completely opposite opinion on those nine points.


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I didn't read the article, and don't plan to- However, I would like to congratulate Jack on bringing up a fine point we should all consider when listening to the environmentalists spew what they call "fact" regarding global warming.

The science of the earth is as undiscovered as the depths of the seas. We know so very little, and the experiments that have been preformed are so shallow that there is hardly any expert that can provide a reputable opinion. If you want a list of amazingly controversial information against this subject, I suggest reading Michael Crichton's "State of Fear."

The earth changes a millennium at a time. Again, I say to the politicians- focus on some things that matter today before you focus so fundamentally on the future.

Children still starve while Gore makes movies.

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The judge does not have the competence to make an assessment of whether points of science are, in fact, correct or incorrect.



Neither does Al...this is hardly the first time Al's psuedo science has been called into question...I just love the irony...the completely PC Noble Academy is all ready to wet themselves over the prospect of giving the once prestigous Noble Peace Prize to a second rate US politician in order to push global warming orthodoxy forward...God help those who question Al's facts...


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If another panal would have given differnt opinions on 9 points, it only proves there are no "facts" being delt with-only opinions. Thus the judge was correct.
 
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No facts at all, Gore is most likely a fraud and to prove so, he uses more energy than any ten normal Americans combined... Roll Eyes




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Yeah I love how just four of his houses each use 20 times as much energy as the average American house. Oh yeah, let's not forget those private jets he takes to his multi-million dollar speaking engagements.

By the way he talks, you'd think he's driving a Jetta and has solar panels on roof, growing his own vegetable garden.
 
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just more of the same hogwash from al snooze gore.they live in mansions and rant and rave about the rich. i love it Eek
 
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I see Fat Albert has won the Nobel Peace Prize...further contributing to its increasing irrelevance...seems the criteria is you must be a jailed human rights activist in a non-communist country, UN beaurocrat, or US presidential loser in order to win.


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The movie was excellent and it points out some major problems that may or may not be able to be resolved.

And perhaps there are some errors, but to deny that the way we are devastating the environment will have no major negative effect is just pure denial.

And yet, we must not forget that millions of people also "argued" that the world was flat for centuries.

Sad to say my point of view, however I think that it is too late for the human race to survive past another 50 to 100 years at maximum.

The earth will be fine...it is just that it will not be be able to sustain human life.
 
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And not only that; cosmology, evolution, heliocentrism, relativity & quantum mechanics are all kneejerk leftist & wrong.
Just say "no" and ask "were you there".

The real truth lies in people than can talk with the dead, speak in tongues and heal, heal, heal.


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I'm not saying global warming isn't a serious issue, and I'm not saying mankind hasn't contributed to the latest 10,000 year warming trend over the last 150 years...what I am saying is Fat Albert's movie is intentionally alarmist propoganda with many scientific inaccuracies and that he personally is a hypocrite and has a bigger carbon footprint than 99.99999% of the American people. It cracks me up how the "intelligensia" fawn all over this bozo. To give him a Nobel Prize just shows how biased the debate is. What has Al Gone done for peace in the world? Giving him the prize is an overt political endorsement of his position that the end is nigh. Doomsayers come around every millenium. Al is no different than many mideavel Chicken Littles.


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On issues of controversy, a person may hold a view with which you agree or with which you disagree. In the end, you may be found right and the other man found to be in error. But I just don't understand why so many guys here make such vehement, mean-spirited personal attacks on the person holding the view opposite yours, sometimes even stooping to deride the person's physical appearance, rather than refuting by argument the issue itself.

A research group of climate change deniers publishes a study indicating Al Gore's energy-using home has a large "carbon footprint". The sole purpose of the study was to establish exactly that fact, that Al Gore has a big house that wastes a lot of energy. Because from that point forward, conservatives no longer had to argue climate change on the basis of science; the message they now parrot, to a man, is "Al Gore is a hypocrite". Ergo, the scientific sources he used in reaching his conclusions can now be safely disregarded, and global warming is exposed as a liberal myth.

Liberal or conservative, we're all in this together. I wish we could keep this important debate about the issues, about the science, not on the private-life inconsistencies or physiognomy of the persons with whom you disagree.

(I first posted this in the other Al Gore thread inadvertently, but withdrew it. This one is more appropriate.)


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The truth lies somewhere in the middle. We should all do what we can to better ourselves. The extreme views pushes us all to one side or the other and shifts the focus from finding a solution to disproving the opposition.
 
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On issues of controversy, a person may hold a view with which you agree or with which you disagree. In the end, you may be found right and the other man found to be in error. But I just don't understand why so many guys here make such vehement, mean-spirited personal attacks on the person holding the view opposite yours, sometimes even stooping to deride the person's physical appearance, rather than refuting by argument the issue itself.

A research group of climate change deniers publishes a study indicating Al Gore's energy-using home has a large "carbon footprint". The sole purpose of the study was to establish exactly that fact, that Al Gore has a big house that wastes a lot of energy. Because from that point forward, conservatives no longer had to argue climate change on the basis of science; the message they now parrot, to a man, is "Al Gore is a hypocrite". Ergo, the scientific sources he used in reaching his conclusions can now be safely disregarded, and global warming is exposed as a liberal myth.

Liberal or conservative, we're all in this together. I wish we could keep this important debate about the issues, about the science, not on the private-life inconsistencies or physiognomy of the persons with whom you disagree.

(I first posted this in the other Al Gore thread inadvertently, but withdrew it. This one is more appropriate.)


Jack...if I offended you, I apologize...all I'm doing is "questioning authority, thinking for myself, filtering out the spin, engaging elected officials critically and making them defend their actions. I'm trying to derive the truth and speaking truth to power"... Wink


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Jack...if I offended you, I apologize...all I'm doing is "questioning authority, thinking for myself, filtering out the spin, engaging elected officials critically and making them defend their actions. I'm trying to derive the truth and speaking truth to power"...
As well you should. And I'm not personally offended, O Man, and to the best of my recollection, you've never attacked me personally.

Still, my little signature phrase doesn't read, "Question authority and make fun of his weight..." or "engage elected officials critically and accuse them of hypocrisy in their private lives..."


'Question authority. Think for yourself. Filter out the spin. Engage elected officials critically. Make them defend what they're doing in your name. Derive the truth. Speak truth to power.'
 
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Fair enough... Wink


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Jack...if I offended you, I apologize


Offend Jack????

He's like you & me. Imfckingpossible to offend.


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He's like you & me. Imfckingpossible to offend.
Maybe exasperate a little. But it passes quickly.


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