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Originally posted by Mr.Goodfella:
I enjoy having very few close friends, and I don't like to be in large groups. I enjoy personal items, finer things. If those things are expensive, so be it. Some people will look at that as being snobbish.
I will put my life in the following order: family, me, friends.

I agree! I probably have less than a dozen people I would truly call friends. Lots more I would call "buddies", but not the same in my book as a friend. If it weren't for being in the military and relocating so often, I'd probably only have a few.

Because of how strongly I value a true friend, I would probably put my life in the following order: family, friends, me.

Sorry for threadjacking Coriolanus.

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Originally posted by KKL:

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Originally posted by SubChop:
I prefer to drink wine straight from the bottle - saves on dirty dishes - does that make me a snob?

Only if its Boones Farm.

So I'm good to go with MD 20/20 or Foxy Lady?

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Originally posted by Peer Gynt:
I'm sure people who don't discern consider me a snob, but the snobs consider me a hack.

I'm probably in this category.

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Originally posted by Gregory Mottola:
Secondly, and more importantly, the heat from your hand can affect the taste of the wine. The finer/thinner the crystal, the hotter the wine can get.

Supposing one takes 5 minutes to drink a glass of wine. 4 mouthfulls at 5 seconds each time equals 20 seconds total.
Fingers in contact with glass 7% of the time

Supposing one takes 30 minutes for a glass. Say 8 sips of 4 seconds each.
Fingers in contact 2% of the time.


...so the conjecture here is that fingers on the glass for 2% to 7% of the time will have an impact on wine temperature that is significant.

Furthermore the finger heat though glass is more significant than mouth heat in direct contact with the wine.

The temperature of one's fingers is much more significant than the mouth temperature.

And when we say fingers we mean finger tips. And finger tips touch 2% to 4% of the surface of the wine glass.

So taking the bigger number for finger size and finger time.. 4% x 7% = 0.3% is significant.

And the finger heat is more significant than if we are dining al fresco. And it is 70, 80, 90 or 100 degrees.

As for the swishing. Add it to the finger time.


Is this what is meant by your post?

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The only time anyone has ever called me a snob was (of all places) on a football related message board.

In an off topic thread someone asked about buying cigars as a gift. He received dozens of replies.

When a certain someone suggested he buy the excellent rum flavored cigars from an excellent source by the name of T*******s.........well of course it goes without saying I had to step right in and straighten the brother out!

That certain someone was a tad bit upset to say the least! Go figure!

Proud to be a snob.

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Originally posted by Rockhound:
Proud to be a snob.

People tend to use the word "snob" and "connoisseur" interchangeably. When meant in a slang sort of way, this is fine. In reality, the two are very different. I deal with REAL snobs often, and I have no respect for them.. I went back and edited that because that doesn't really describe how I feel about them. I feel sorry for them.
On the other hand, I have plenty of respect for a connoisseur. Here is how Webster defines the two...



con·nois·seur

Pronunciation:\ˌkä-nə-ˈsər also -ˈsu̇r\
Function: noun

1: expert; especially : one who understands the details, technique, or principles of an art and is competent to act as a critical judge
2: one who enjoys with discrimination and appreciation of subtleties <a connoisseur of fine wines>
— con·nois·seur·ship \-ˌship\ noun

VS "Snob:...

snob

Pronunciation:\ˈsnäb\
Function:noun

1British : cobbler
2: one who blatantly imitates, fawningly admires, or vulgarly seeks association with those regarded as social superiors
3 a: one who tends to rebuff, avoid, or ignore those regarded as inferior b: one who has an offensive air of superiority in matters of knowledge or taste


I assume you are proud to be the former rather than the latter.

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I am a snob in only the British sense of the word. Yes I have made shoes.
HA!

The worst "enculés" snobs are the ones that think that having more money than someone else makes them better. This spans all ages and genders.
Contempt for the middle class by old money.
Contempt for low wage earners by the middle class.
Contempt of the poor by everyone.

Who was it that said being rich is when the husband earns $1 more than the brother-in-law?

QM,
The heat of the hand will most drastically effect the wine when the entire hand envelops the glass, palm and all, for a few minutes. I see this often. As for finger tip size ratios, time, heat, thickness of the glass, and other factors, both precise and variable, that you previously put forth, I leave it to you to devise a formula that will best illustrate the exact point when the hand will cook the wine. Work on it. Perfect it. And when you formulate an elegantly sound solution, I will have you featured in our sister publication The Wine Spectator. QM=H+Si+CO2 x (3,5,4'-trihydroxystilbene[Resveratrol])...but then again, if math tests can be racist, I suppose chemistry can be snobbish.

I dont consider myself a snob at all, Im an average down to earth guy who works construction and enjoys fine cigars and of course some bevrages.
I do however enjoy having the higher quality "toys". But again, I work for them and anyone who does deserves to have whatever they wish.

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Originally posted by Gregory Mottola:
QM,
The heat of the hand will most drastically effect the wine when the entire hand envelops the glass, palm and all, for a few minutes.

I agree.

I have done that with Cognac. And it heated it. I accepted the smudged glass as a necessary evil.

Thank you for the back and forth on this. I appreciate it.

As you have seen, it is of my character to put science in many of my posts.