http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080528/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_mcclellan_book

He must have been payed by the liberals.

I imagine there is truth to the book. The President is human and makes mistakes like everybody else. You can take a lot of approaches to a book like this. The media will see it as a "gotcha" indictment of the President. I see it as perhaps an inside look into the administration. There are good and bad things about every administration. I see no wrong in finding fault with the Administration. I see wrong in those that see fit to only find fault with the Administration.

Lucky, why don't you go slam the leadership of your own country?

This happens to every president. Just take a look at all the former Clinton advisers. Nothing new about this.

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I imagine there is truth to the book. The President is human and makes mistakes like everybody else. You can take a lot of approaches to a book like this. The media will see it as a "gotcha" indictment of the President. I see it as perhaps an inside look into the administration. There are good and bad things about every administration. I see no wrong in finding fault with the Administration. I see wrong in those that see fit to only find fault with the Administration.

I tend to agree with this assessment.

Bush has actually done some good (give me a minute - I'll come up with something ) along with causing some problems. He's neither unalloyed good nor completely evil (that title belongs to Cheney ).

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Lucky, why don't you go slam the leadership of your own country?

I do a lot. But most of the time not here, because it would be insignificant to do it here. It won't interest you.

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Originally posted by LuckyBreak:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080528/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_mcclellan_book

He must have been payed by the liberals.

I know you're joking, but the $$$$ for his own bank account is certainly the driving force behind this.

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I know you're joking, but the $$$$ for his own bank account is certainly the driving force behind this.

That plus the fact that he was fired and replaced by Tony Snow.

From the book:

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Former White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan writes in a new memoir that President Bush relied on an aggressive "political propaganda campaign" instead of the truth to sell the Iraq war

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The way Bush managed the Iraq issue "almost guaranteed that the use of force would become the only feasible option.

"In the permanent campaign era, it was all about manipulating sources of public opinion to the president's advantage," McClellan writes.

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The Iraq war was not necessary," he concludes. "Waging an unnecessary war is a grave mistake.

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McClellan said, Bush's unwillingness to admit mistakes and belief in his own spin contributed to turning the president into "not quite the leader I once imagined him to be." He faults Bush for a "lack of inquisitiveness" and "a degree of self-deception that may be psychologically necessary to justify the tactics needed to win the political game."

Bush "convinces himself to believe what suits his needs at the moment," McClellan writes.

It's good to see someone from this administration actually telling the truth for a change...

McClellan was an ineffective press secretary. This book is a cry for attention and, no doubt, he will receive that attention from the hordes of Bush haters who will soak up this drivel.

Also, it is now being reported that the editors "tweaked" the narrative presented, so I have doubts as to the veracity of his claims.

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That plus the fact that he was fired and replaced by Tony Snow.

Hurt over being publicly deceived in the Valerie Plame issue, Scott McClellan resigned in April 2006 at the same time Karl Rove was sent to the back office to concentrate on politics instead of policy, and shortly after Andy Card left as White House chief of staff. Though it's possible, it's not at all clear that he was asked to leave, and I can't find a single credible source that indicates he was. It is likely, though, his resignation was not unanticipated because of the Plame affair, since Tony Snow had been contacted a couple of weeks earlier to ascertain his interest if the position were to become available. At Bush's request, McClellan stayed in place until they could get Snow onboard and able to wrap up his responsibilities at Fox.

Bush admirers, like lawstudent10, will of course vilify the author and assail his job performance or psychological motivations, rather than read the book for its content, or for anything they might find contrary to existing assumptions.

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Karl Rove

I heard Karl Rove was sent to the back office, as you said, after his wife couldn't stop bragging around among Washington's elite class that her husband was the one who coined the term "axis of evil" that Bush used in his state of the union speech.

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I heard Karl Rove was sent to the back office, as you said, after his wife couldn't stop bragging around among Washington's elite class that her husband was the one who coined the term "axis of evil" that Bush used in his state of the union speech.

Yeah, that story made the rounds, but I highly doubt it. I'd always understood John Bolton came up with the phrase. Rove was very good at planning political strategy and not so good at formulating public policy. The move fit.

To be honest, that term, the "axis of evil" was one of the best terms I've ever heard from a politician. I can still remember how I laughed my ass off when I heard Bush say it the first time. Whoever coined that term needs to take some sort of prize.

And yes, this term has John Bolton written all over it, it's so him.

You guys have politicians who come up with the best political humor there could ever be. The "Greater Middle East", the "New Middle East" the "hard labor for the new middle east" and terms like that just make my day. Unfortunately the political life in Egypt is boring as hell, no good terms like these here.

And Condy's "Outposts of Tyranny"...how could I have forgotten that

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To be honest, that term, the "axis of evil" was one of the best terms I've ever heard from a politician. I can still remember how I laughed my ass off when I heard Bush say it the first time. Whoever coined that term needs to take some sort of prize.

Interesting coming from the Cabron of Cairo.

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It's good to see someone from this administration actually telling the truth for a change...

If this book were saying Bush was absolutely right on and the best thing ever, you'd say it was a bunch of lies. The book fits your perception of truth, therefore, it is truth.

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Interesting coming from the Cabron of Cairo.

Nice name Pers, I like it. Like the Thief of Baghdad.
Only I live in Alexandria, not in Cairo.

What kind of person do you have to be to roll over on people you've worked with for years - just to sell a book. And I'm not referring to this book alone, but the endless line of scum who latched onto a president, lived the life for years, then wrote a self-serving book.

What a crock the whole political and governing process has become.

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What kind of person do you have to be...

A politician.

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What kind of person do you have to be to roll over on people you've worked with for years - just to sell a book. And I'm not referring to this book alone, but the endless line of scum who latched onto a president, lived the life for years, then wrote a self-serving book.

"Lived the life"??

So ... just do your job, keep quiet, do what you're told, then when it's over, go home and shut up. Forget what you've seen and experienced while in the halls of American government. Only write memoirs if they praise the boss, keep it to yourself if they don't. Right?