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...you mooch everything from cigars to golf clubs from the liberal agenda here that want to be friends with anybody.Then you insult the very nation they come from.


Just to be fair to Lucky...

Plenty of people mooch cigars on this site. It is one of the primary reasons it exists given the PIFNET3 has over 4,000 posts in it.

Lucky NEVER asked for a golf club. I offered it from one golfer to another, completely ignoring the fact that his views of the U.S.A. drive me nuts. People have been very generous to me with cigars on this site; what's wrong with paying it forward to someone else?

If "forum tolerance" makes me a liberal, then I can't argue with that. Frankly, I thought there were greater requirements for being labeled a liberal.

I don't need or expect his friendship any more than I need anyone's friendship in this forum. If people enjoy my participation here then that is a bonus for me. But I hope ALL of us consider those that live around us our real friends.

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I don't need or expect his friendship any more than I need anyone's friendship in this forum. If people enjoy my participation here then that is a bonus for me. But I hope ALL of us consider those that live around us our real friends.


Tom please consider me a friend. I consider you one. I consider everyone here my friend even those who disagree with me. You Tom disagree with me, KKL does, Crazy Poet does, Docbarry does, EVP does and a lot others, I still consider them my friends because I respect them and they respect me, we can have different conflicting opinions but we are decent enough to put these differences in a respectable articulate way and walk away at the end of the day still friends. This is how adults behave and think.


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Frankly, I thought there were greater requirements for being labeled a liberal.
Oh, there are, Tom.

To get your label, you first have to apply for membership at one of our regular meetings at George Clooney's house, at which time you'll be asked to present proof of a paid ACLU membership, a signed copy of Al Franken's Rush Limbaugh Is a Big Fat Liar (paperback acceptable), your Ann Coulter voodoo doll with needles in all the appropriate places, photographic evidence of having saved a whale within the past 60 days (please review the rules regarding what qualifies as an actual save, versus merely rendering a bit of assistance), a clipped Maureen Dowd column, a DVD collection of each season of The West Wing autographed by Aaron Sorkin, swearing that you've thought about a Prius as your next car, and a credit card receipt from taking a homeless, gay, disabled female African-American war veteran, or Lance Bass, to lunch.


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To get your label, you first have to apply for membership at one of our regular meetings at George Clooney's house, at which time you'll be asked to present proof of a paid ACLU membership, a signed copy of Al Franken's Rush Limbaugh Is a Big Fat Liar (paperback acceptable), your Ann Coulter voodoo doll with needles in all the appropriate places, photographic evidence of having saved a whale within the past 60 days (please review the rules regarding what qualifies as an actual save, versus merely rendering a bit of assistance), a clipped Maureen Dowd column, a DVD collection of each season of The West Wing autographed by Aaron Sorkin, and a credit card receipt from taking a homeless, gay, disabled female African-American war veteran, or Lance Bass, to lunch.


LMFAO! Nice Jack!
 
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Frankly, I thought there were greater requirements for being labeled a liberal.
Oh, there are, Tom.

To get your label, you first have to apply for membership at one of our regular meetings at George Clooney's house, at which time you'll be asked to present proof of a paid ACLU membership, a signed copy of Al Franken's Rush Limbaugh Is a Big Fat Liar (paperback acceptable), your Ann Coulter voodoo doll with needles in all the appropriate places, photographic evidence of having saved a whale within the past 60 days (please review the rules regarding what qualifies as an actual save, versus merely rendering a bit of assistance), a clipped Maureen Dowd column, a DVD collection of each season of The West Wing autographed by Aaron Sorkin, swearing that you've thought about a Prius as your next car, and a credit card receipt from taking a homeless, gay, disabled female African-American war veteran, or Lance Bass, to lunch.


Jack, you just made my morning!

Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin

And, TSF - I'm happy to call you, and just about everyone on this board, Friend. We don't all agree - how boring would that be - but we still respect each other (well, most of us, most of the time... Wink ).


So many cigars, so little time...
 
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http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/04/new-rnc-ad-democrats-against-obama/




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Great to know I am nowhere close to being a certified liberal. I didn't get any sleep last night worrying about my impending doom. Wink

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To get your label, you first have to apply for membership at one of our regular meetings at George Clooney's house, at which time you'll be asked to present proof of a paid ACLU membership, a signed copy of Al Franken's Rush Limbaugh Is a Big Fat Liar (paperback acceptable), your Ann Coulter voodoo doll with needles in all the appropriate places, photographic evidence of having saved a whale within the past 60 days (please review the rules regarding what qualifies as an actual save, versus merely rendering a bit of assistance), a clipped Maureen Dowd column, a DVD collection of each season of The West Wing autographed by Aaron Sorkin, swearing that you've thought about a Prius as your next car, and a credit card receipt from taking a homeless, gay, disabled female African-American war veteran, or Lance Bass, to lunch.


That's hillarious.




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I imagine it is McCain that cannot wait.


Yes, you IMAGINE that. I'm sure the Far Right is PRAYING for a tape of Michelle Obama....ANYTHING to DISTRACT the public from the mess we're in these days due to the GOP. Because ya'll DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, YOU ARE GRASPING AT STRAWS, OR TAPES. Unfortunately for YOU GUYS the country is SICK OF THE REPUBLICANS. And hopefully, in November they will show ya'll exactly HOW sick they are of them!
 
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Unfortunately for YOU GUYS the country is SICK OF THE REPUBLICANS.


Actually, judging by the polls, only about half the country is SICK OF THE REPUBLICANS.
 
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Not true. Republicans are in danger of getting slaughtered in Senate races, House races, AND in losing the Presidency. Like that REPUBLICAN Senator said, if the GOP brand were dog food, no one would buy it. the entire GOP "brand" is in DEEP TROUBLE. McCain is trying to distance himself as far from Bush as he can, even as Rush WHINES about him doing so. I'm loving every minute of it. The country has finally woke and smelled the coffee regarding the GOP. The only way they can win is if they can succeed, once again, in playing on people's FEARS and DISTRACTING people from the MESS they have made. And as for POLLS, Bush's APPROVAL RATINGS are still ABYSMAL.
 
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And as for POLLS, Bush's APPROVAL RATINGS are still ABYSMAL.


Congress's APPROVAL RATINGS are worse than Bush's. Who is in control of Congress these days?

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Congress's APPROVAL RATINGS are worse than Bush's. Who is in control of Congress these days?
Yeah, true, but I'm not sure voters differentiate much about who's actually running the store in Congress when the country's hurting like it is. The combination of a tanking economy, gas prices, job insecurity and the protracted war in Iraq mean many more problems for the GOP than for Democrats this year, in my view. Whichever party is in the White House normally takes the blame and bears the brunt of voter anger, fairly or unfairly.

The Republicans have already lost three recent special elections in once-safe Congressional districts, most recently in Mississippi. GOP leadership worries that up to six Senate seats could be lost to the Democrats in November and as many as 20 in the House.


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Half? Try 70%.

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Unfortunately for YOU GUYS the country is SICK OF THE REPUBLICANS.


Actually, judging by the polls, only about half the country is SICK OF THE REPUBLICANS.
 
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Half? Try 70%.

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Unfortunately for YOU GUYS the country is SICK OF THE REPUBLICANS.


Actually, judging by the polls, only about half the country is SICK OF THE REPUBLICANS.


Could you provide a source for where you found 70%?

The latest poll I saw had McCain at 43%. That would make 57%.
 
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Latest combined polling data from RealClearPolitics.com this morning.

Direction of the country
Right direction: 16.0%
Wrong direction: 79.2%

Generic Congressional party approval
Republicans: 37.4%
Democrats: 49.4%

Congressional job approval
Approve: 18.7%
Disapprove: 75.0%

Bush job approval
Approve: 29.8%
Disapprove: 65.8%

Obama-McCain head-to-head
Obama: 46.7%
McCain: 44.5%


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I always get a kick out of questions like "Do you think the country is heading in the right direction?" Completely and utterly meaningless.


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I always get a kick out of questions like "Do you think the country is heading in the right direction?" Completely and utterly meaningless.
Well, RCP takes result data from all the major independent polling groups, then averages them. Each organization phrases those "right or wrong" questions in somewhat different ways, but I think these days, it's gotten pretty scientific and they're pretty careful about avoiding subjective bias in the questions.

But whadda I know?


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I imagine it is McCain that cannot wait.


Yes, you IMAGINE that. I'm sure the Far Right is PRAYING for a tape of Michelle Obama....ANYTHING to DISTRACT the public from the mess we're in these days due to the GOP. Because ya'll DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, YOU ARE GRASPING AT STRAWS, OR TAPES. Unfortunately for YOU GUYS the country is SICK OF THE REPUBLICANS. And hopefully, in November they will show ya'll exactly HOW sick they are of them!


I see you still haven't learned how to quote and your caps lock button is still stuck.




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Ronald Reagan


 
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Congress's APPROVAL RATINGS are worse than Bush's. Who is in control of Congress these days?
Yeah, true, but I'm not sure voters differentiate much about who's actually running the store in Congress when the country's hurting like it is. The combination of a tanking economy, gas prices, job insecurity and the protracted war in Iraq mean many more problems for the GOP than for Democrats this year, in my view. Whichever party is in the White House normally takes the blame and bears the brunt of voter anger, fairly or unfairly.

The Republicans have already lost three recent special elections in once-safe Congressional districts, most recently in Mississippi. GOP leadership worries that up to six Senate seats could be lost to the Democrats in November and as many as 20 in the House.


Indeed they did, to democrats who were