I hope someone with more experience can help me with a question. I recently received a small cabinet humidor (300 ct shelf and room for about 28 boxes in the bottom) and purchased the Cigar Oasis XL Plus. Where is the best place to put it in the cabinet...the top where the single cigars are kept or underneath where the boxes are stored? Thanks for the help!
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Since water vapor is a lighter gas than air at the same temperature, I would say put it in the bottom and allow the higher RH air to rise to the top if it has a path to do so. Also, make sure you check the calibration of the Oasis (using the salt test). A poster here found a few that he owned to be off from 9 to 11%.
I have a similar setup with a cabinet.. only difference, is that I've replaced the singles area with more shelves for boxes... the oasis is at the bottom of the cabinet.. the cabinet is presently at over 150% capacity (as per manufacturer specs) (and yes, I am a tetris master).. and yet the XL PLUS is has been doing an excellent job for a very long time now...
My Oasis is only off by -1 in RH. Seems like everyone has different results. I came to my result by comparing my salt tested digital hygro and letting it run for a day. Might have to fool with it for a week.
Oh, and how do you like your cab? Is it the Trivoli? I remember you saying your wife purchased it for you in a previous post.
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A little off topic but no need to start a new thread.
Is there a graph that describes the max RH you can achieve before reaching dew point at xx temperature? My house is always cool in the winter, 60-63 degrees. The RH usually doesn't get over 60...
Also, I'm wondering if something like the Oasis an be harmful in cooler temperatures...I mean at some point you may see condensation in the box, no? Never mind, bad question lol.
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Originally posted by Pharmdudeoh: Put the Oasis on the bottom.
My Oasis is only off by -1 in RH. Seems like everyone has different results. I came to my result by comparing my salt tested digital hygro and letting it run for a day. Might have to fool with it for a week.
Oh, and how do you like your cab? Is it the Trivoli? I remember you saying your wife purchased it for you in a previous post.
So far I love it! I've gotten my loose sticks in the tray on top and a box each of Peterson Robusto, 5 Vegas Gold Torpedo and Oliva Serie G Robusto in the bottom. Oasis is set to 68% RH since the weather is dry right now. Over the summer I'll drop it down to 65%.
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Originally posted by Ozz1113: A little off topic but no need to start a new thread.
Is there a graph that describes the max RH you can achieve before reaching dew point at xx temperature? My house is always cool in the winter, 60-63 degrees. The RH usually doesn't get over 60...
Also, I'm wondering if something like the Oasis an be harmful in cooler temperatures...I mean at some point you may see condensation in the box, no?
Here's a Dew Point Chart. According to the chart, if the inside temp of the Humidor is 70 Degrees and the RH is 70%, then the air temp directly outside the humi would have to be 60 degrees before dew would form on humidor. I don't know many people that keep their house that cold and most home AC units won't go below 65 Degrees.
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A little off topic but no need to start a new thread.
Is there a graph that describes the max RH you can achieve before reaching dew point at xx temperature? My house is always cool in the winter, 60-63 degrees. The RH usually doesn't get over 60...
I remember reading once that if the temp drops below 55 degrees F it is impossible to maintain 65% Rh.
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Originally posted by Ozz1113: My house is always cool in the winter, 60-63 degrees. The RH usually doesn't get over 60...
There's nothing wrong with an RH of 60. Most Brits say 60 is their ideal standard. You'll avoid most bad burn scenarios at 60 as-well. I keep my humis at 65 using beads and don't add more water until they're down to 60 or even 59 for a day or two. The 70/70 stuff you may have read about on the Internet is way over-hyped by people who aren't serious smokers. Also, there's nothing wrong with temps as low as 55.
Originally posted by SteveSur: There's nothing wrong with an RH of 60. Most Brits say 60 is their ideal standard. You'll avoid most bad burn scenarios at 60 as-well. I keep my humis at 65 using beads and don't add more water until they're down to 60 or even 59 for a day or two. The 70/70 stuff you may have read about on the Internet is way over-hyped by people who aren't serious smokers. Also, there's nothing wrong with temps as low as 55.
Honestly, I don't know who to believe. I'm learning it's all about your preference and experience. The Brits may say that b\c cubans require lower RH right? I am leaning towards a 2nd Humi for my higher RH needs. Thanks!
These ideas provided by Oliva:
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Storing Cigars ................................................................................................................. Proper storage is fundamental. Cigars should be stored without cellophane in a humidor which has an adequate seal. It should be checked often to insure proper conditions, (70% humidity). Contrary to popular belief, cigars should not be stored in a refrigerator or in a freezer. Either of these will affect the natural oils found in the leaf. Always take into consideration that air conditioning as well as heating will affect the humidity in your humidor.
Aging ................................................................................................................ Aging is a complex process which requires special attention. While all cigars show some degree of maturity from additional aging, not all cigars age well. A common misconception is that a cigar which was rolled with “new” tobacco will lose its bite and harshness through humidor aging. No amount of humidor aging will mellow “new” or un-cured tobacco.
“The best cigars for aging are those which were well balanced and enjoyable to being with.”
Proper aging requires a designated humidor which will not be used for daily use. It should have a capacity that exceeds the amount of cigars to be aged by at least 20%. Cigars should be placed in the humidor without cellophane. Allow for space for the head and foot of the cigars evenly. The humidity source should be one that can exceed 70% humidity. Aging cigars should be kept at 70%-79% humidity depending on the thickness of the wrapper. Thicker wrapper require higher levels of humidity. Once desired age is achieved a cigar should be brought to 70% before smoking.
Recommended Aging High Primes (Thicker Wrappers) Maduro/Habano/Corojo/Habano 2000/Criollo/Sumatra/3-7 years
2-3 Primes (Medium Wrappers) Low Primes/Ecuador Connecticut/2-5 years
1st Cut (Thinner Wrappers) USA Connecticut/Cameroon/1-4 years.
In a box of Davidoff's I purchased, it specifically stated 70-72.
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