Easy Mike, some people have better things to do than post on this forum all day.

Not me, of course, but some people.

Esmerelda Nava, aged four, was recently strangled, molested and killed by an illegal alien who had been deported in 2003. The accused killer is Cornelio Rivera Zamites of Vera Cruz, Mexico, who had been residing in Gainsville, Georgia. Esmerelda went with her parents to visit the 24-year-old Zamites. At some point late Saturday night (6/25), the child's mother realized the girl was missing. A police officer found her body early the next morning in nearby woods. An article of Zamites clothing was close by and he was gone.
Zamites had been deported for driving under the influence, as well as having no license or insurance. At least his illegal status was duly noted.

"If you don't do anything about the borders, it's kind of like an all-expense paid trip home to see loved ones before they come back," Hall County Sheriff Steve Cronic said.
Many of the criminals listed here were on the screen of law enforcement and should have been deported but were not. Cornelio Rivera Zamites, the accused killer of little Esmeralda, above, actually was deported, but managed to re-enter. One story described the man as a day laborer who worked as a roofer:
On Monday, officials said they suspect the man, an undocumented day laborer, may be trying to return to Mexico.
"The indication is that he's a bad person in general," Sheriff Steve Cronic said, referring to unconfirmed reports that the suspect had legal issues in Mexico.
All states between Georgia and Mexico have been put on alert for the suspect, who has no known family in the United States or no regular place of employment. He is also known as "Revolver."
This case shows how dangerous it is to have millions of unknown, unidentified people, who are criminals in their own countries, living in the United States. Because this man could likely make a decent living by working under the table, he was free to brutally murder a little girl.
Update, June 30: Zamites was apprehended in Georgia.

Dee Dee, this was a 4 year old girl. You can't be for allowing these people to come into our country willy nilley. Or maybe you are!

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Originally posted by Extensioncord:
Easy Mike, some people have better things to do than post on this forum all day.

Not me, of course, but some people.

I know, but I can work and do this at the same time. Hell, I would take time off just to expose the good people to what people like Dee Dee really want.

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Originally posted by Extensioncord:
Easy Mike, some people have better things to do than post on this forum all day.

Not me, of course, but some people.

Yup. You are right. I'm multi-tasking here.


Since we are talking about murderers here.....let me post some serial killers....you know.....the MAIN MURDERERS.



Dahmer served his time at the Columbia Correctional Institute in Portage, Wisconsin. On November 28th, 1994, Dahmer (who himself had murdered 10 african american males) & another inmate were brutally beaten & killed by fellow african american inmate Christopher Scarver. After Dahmer's death and subsequent legal proceedings regarding the study of his brain were over, his remains were cremated and divided in half, between his birth mother Joyce and his father Lionel, who had remarried a woman named Shari.

John Evander Couey, 47, has pleaded not guilty to charges of first-degree murder, sexual battery on a child, kidnapping and burglary in the girl's death.

Jessica's body was found about a month after she disappeared from her home near the mobile home where Couey had been living. Her hands were tied with speaker wire and her fingers poked through the garbage bags in which authorities say she was buried alive.

Couey's taped confession -- which Howard recently ruled can't be used at his trial -- and other details of the case received national media coverage. According to court records, Couey told investigators he took the girl from her room, raped her, swaddled her in garbage bags and buried her in the yard.

When are you going to answer the question Dee Dee?

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Originally posted by DeeDee:

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Originally posted by Extensioncord:
Easy Mike, some people have better things to do than post on this forum all day.

Not me, of course, but some people.

Yup. You are right. I'm multi-tasking here.


Since we are talking about murderers here.....let me post some serial killers....you know.....the MAIN MURDERERS.



Dahmer served his time at the Columbia Correctional Institute in Portage, Wisconsin. On November 28th, 1994, Dahmer (who himself had murdered 10 african american males) & another inmate were brutally beaten & killed by fellow african american inmate Christopher Scarver. After Dahmer's death and subsequent legal proceedings regarding the study of his brain were over, his remains were cremated and divided in half, between his birth mother Joyce and his father Lionel, who had remarried a woman named Shari.

Thanks Dee Dee but the topic here is Illeagl Immigrants not U.S. Citezens other wise I would have told this story which involves an indian.

Man set fire to make money - Leonard Gregg - Arizona Rodeo fire - Brief Article
Indian Life, July-August, 2002 by Alisa Blackwood


SHOW LOW, AZ (AP) -- A part-time firefighter charged with starting one of the two wildfires that merged into the largest in Arizona's history told an investigator he set it to make money as part of a fire crew, according to court documents.

Leonard Gregg, 29, said he was also angry because of his parents' drinking problem, according to a statement filed in federal court by a Bureau of Indian Affairs investigator.

"This fire was started with a profit motive behind it," U.S. Attorney Paul Charlton said at a news conference in Show Low.

During a hearing in federal court in Flagstaff, a tired-looking Gregg said: "I'm sorry for what I did."

Gregg, who has worked under contract with the BIA, was arrested Saturday after he admitted to setting the massive Rodeo fire and a one-acre fire on June 18 near the Fort Apache Indian Reservation town of Cibecue, the documents say.

The smaller fire was put out, but the Rodeo fire exploded up steep terrain, threatened the small city of Show Low and overran two towns just to the west.

The fire then merged with another started by a lost hiker signaling a helicopter. By June 23, the 452,000-acre fire had destroyed at least 423 homes and was about 35 percent contained by fire lines near Show Low. It continued burning out of control elsewhere.

Area residents were stunned by the arrest.

"It's just a selfish act that's turned into a monster that's devastated the economy of the White Mountain area," said Byron Brown, a resident of Pinetop-Lakeside, one of the communities that was evacuated for days as the fire approached. "It's beyond my comprehension to think that someone could start a fire for this reason. I don't think that anyone could comprehend that someone could do this for such a selfish motivation."

The criminal complaint said a pair of Gregg's boots match prints found where the Rodeo fire and the one-acre fire started. He admitted he was wearing the boots at the time he set both fires, according to the statement filed by Daniel Hawkins, a special agent for the BIA.

Before the fire was reported, Gregg told a woman that there was a wildfire and that he had to get home because there was going to be fire call, the statement said.

Gregg was one of the first members of the fire crew to be called to fight the Rodeo fire, according to the statement.

If convicted of both counts, Gregg could face 10 years in prison and be fined $500,000.

Jim Paxon, a fire spokesman, called the revelation "gut-wrenching."

But I digress. Back to Dee Dee's friends or should I say ameigo's!

Virginia "Jenny" Garcia was an 18-year-old college freshman when she was murdered with a butcher knife in her own house, in her own room, on her own bed allegedly by an illegal alien. The accused murderer, David Diaz Morales, whom the Austin police had earlier held in custody for child molestation, had been released rather than deported because of the city's sanctuary policy.
Incidentally, Rep. Tom Tancredo tried to end the criminal-protection sanctuary policy in 2003, but Congress was deaf to the concerns of victims' families and law enforcement generally: the bill received only 104 votes out of 424 cast. So much for the "nation of laws" myth we hear celebrated by politicians when they are campaigning for re-election. When push comes to shove, most choose political correctness — in this case "say no evil" against so-called immigrants — rather than law enforcement.

Jenny's father, Humberto Garcia, wants to know why the Austin city government protects foreign criminals so they can kill innocent young girls like his late daughter. He appeared on CNN's must-watch Lou Dobbs Tonight March 16 to speak on behalf of all grieving families who have lost a loved one due to irresponsible government at multiple levels, from the Austin City Council to the White House. The sanctuary policy created by the Austin public officials directly contributed to his daughter's death, as Mr. Garcia stated:

This is an abuse of civil rights. Her civil rights were trampled by a fellow who should have been deported. He should have been turned into immigration once he was found with illegal documentation, and he was not. (Dobbs transcript here.)

This case shows how ridiculously hamstrung law enforcement has become when an "immigrant" is involved. An accused child molester was released to commit an even more heinous crime, that of murder, and if the government had done its basic job of keeping the monsters of the world out of our country, Jenny Garcia would be alive today.
Update: On March 22, Bill O'Reilly interviewed Humberto Garcia, where he explained the devastation his family has experienced after the murder and his efforts to sue the city of Austin for the sanctuary policy which directly contributed to Jenny Garcia's death.

Here's a good question: is the number of crimes committed by the illegal population out of proportion with that of society in general?

Doesn't matter to me either way really, I agree that immigration laws should be enforced whether it's proprotionate or not, but it would be interesting to know. I would guess that if someone is willing to break the law forbidding illegal entry into the U.S., then they're probably willing to break other laws, too.

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Originally posted by mikeyd501:

Thanks Dee Dee but the topic here is Illeagl Immigrants not U.S. Citezens other

The topic here is illegal activity. Nice try!


White-collar crimes cost the United States more than $300 billion annually according to the FBI.
White-collar crimes are fraud, bankruptcy fraud, bribery, insider trading, embezzlement, computer crime, medical crime, public corruption, identity theft, environmental crime, pension fund crime, RICO crimes, consumer fraud, occupational crime, securities fraud, financial fraud, and forgery. The tools of the trade are paperwork or through the computer. performed by using paperwork or computers .White collar crimes go largely undetected.

Death penalty statistics:

White (57%)
Black (34%)
Hispanic (06%)
Native Am (01%)
Asian (01%)

I have restrained myself from posting on threads like this, but this is getting kinda crazy. I have to agree with extensioncord's last comment, as it was where my train of thought was going at the time. I can post examples of crimes all day long, and single out only Hispanics, Native Americans, etc... and it will not mean much, unless you look at the percentage of these crimes taking place by the subject group. So Mikey, your crimes listed are very real, but at what percentage are these relateable to all crimes occuring in the U.S.??
As far as your question of "are you for or against illegal immigration?" That is just too simplistic of a question. You seem to be an intelligent person, so why not pose a question as to why immigrants are running to our country. What are the real reasons? What can be done to take control of a situation, and take steps to work with people that want to come to our country.?
Just for an idea of where you are coming from or what you "think" is going on,.. Do you really know what is going on in Mexico right now? In Central America? People are not running up here to steal your jobs, and get free health care. People are currently running for their lives.
Anyway, I am not trying to blast this thread, but just got a little frustrated at the rants without foundation. I would like to speak further on ideas for solving a problem, should that be considered..

This might answer some questions :

http://www.voanews.com/english/2006-06-29-voa44.cfm

Who cares if "illegal immigrants" commit or do not commit as many crimes as bonafide real American citizens.

Isn't the point more about ... why aren't we getting these disgusting "illegals" out of our country? If I were God/Emperor/President, I'd have every illegal rounded up and deported within 1-2 years.

I'd also put American citizens who "pay/hire" illegals in jail for awhile. We have to cut off the money supply to the illegals, and then they will GET OUT.

I'd better calm down now, or the ACLU will be calling me to revoke my membership.

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Originally posted by DeeDee:

The topic here is illegal activity. Nice try!

Sorry missy but since I started this thread it is what I say it is. Now you may have ADD or something but all you have to do is go to the first post in this thread (which is mine) and see that no one is talking about white collar crime or any of the other things you are putting out there to change the topic.

Speaking of the topic, are you for or against illegal immigrants? I'm guessing you are for it since you won't answer the question and defend their right to do it.

I guess we now know how to judge your remarks from here on out. Ant-American to the bone. How nice!

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Originally posted by flashman:
This might answer some questions :

http://www.voanews.com/english/2006-06-29-voa44.cfm

Then again maybe not. How many are never caught or flee and run back to Mexico over and over again?

The stories that I posted here was the tip of the iceburg. You need to go here to get more of the whole picture. Please read the sad stories that could have been prevented and remember the next victim could be you or someone you love. Also remember that Dee Dee is trying to make it easier for these animals to be here and stay here. Go check out her !website. They would have you believe they are all saints.

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Originally posted by DeeDee:
Death penalty statistics:

White (57%)
Black (34%)
Hispanic (06%)
Native Am (01%)
Asian (01%)

In 2002, the AG's office estimated that about 1/4 of Colorado's 200 active murder warrants for fugitives involved Mexican nationals who returned to their homeland after the crimes.

Stick that stat in your peace pipe and smoke it!

Here's some more you can chew on Dee Dee.

More stats

Nice numbers on the murders Dee Dee. You beat the blacks! You must be so proud. Hoist that mexican flag high this weekend.

Once again that's just the hispanics that they catch. How many run back to Mexico?

Not the picture you were trying to paint for us is it Dee Dee?

"Speaking of the topic, are you for or against illegal immigrants? "

Actually your subject topic was "Political Ads".. Maybe the ADD is more localized than you think....

Well maybe you should go back and watch as well as listen to the ad Mr. Smarty Pants. He does talk about illegal immigrants and that woud be part of the (my) topic. He does not talk about all the things that Dee Dee would like to focus on.

Was that simple enough for you or do you need pictures to help you?