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Originally posted by mikeyd501:
Do you have any proof or is this just your opinion? I know, I know you have the right to state your opinion but I hate it when people state things like it's factual material when it's not. Show me the data and I'll eat my words.

Last I checked, there was no data on how many racists there are in America. (How would that polling work anyway? "Hello, I'm calling on behalf of the ABC public opinion poll and was wondering if you could answer some questions about whether or not you're a bigot, what specific races you like or dislike...")

I think it's pretty safe to assume there are a lot of racists left. And I think it's also safe to assume that some of them are giddy about a large movement that wants so send a whole bunch of brown people back to their native land. I'm not saying we shouldn't enforce immigration law, I just worry that commercials like these are really a veiled form of racism that encorages bigotry.

Just think if this commercial were written from a liberal perspective...which I could easily do...in fact, I have a few spare minutes so why not...

"Welcome to the Twilight Zone...where the president spies on innocent Americans...wages war without provocation...imprisions foreign citizens, even tortures them, without due process or any oversight...and even attempts to muzzle the media who reports on his misdoings..."

We all know the issues are more complicated than than. That Vernon Robinson commercial is pure pandering garbage and dumb strategy, too, just like the commercial above would be.

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Originally posted by mikeyd501:
When you were finding these people breaking the law (speed limit) did you issue them a ticket? If you felt they were drunk did you arrest them for DUI?

What a dumb thing to say. A person who is caught for a DUI is entirely different than when a person comes here to America to work for a competitive wage to try and survive.

Those who are DUI are putting other people's life in DANGER. Get it? DANGER. In fact, I had to watch and hear a man die when he was drinking and driving and drove his car into a man-made lake with very little lighting. He would never have died if he was not intoxicated and more alert. He didn't know how to swim.

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Originally posted by mikeyd501:
Did you know that against the law means against the law?

Ha Ha! I knew it. You do speed. Guess how many Americans are guilty of Jay Walking......littering and speeding. Take a stab at it.

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Originally posted by mikeyd501:
Your job as a peace officer was to enforce the law, not to decide if it was a good law or a bad law.

My job as a law enforcement was to make COMMON SENSE DECISIONS.

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Originally posted by mikeyd501:
I don't get your point Dee Dee. Are you saying we should turn a blind eye to certain law breakers? Where do we draw the line?

Study our American history, lest you repeat the mistakes we have made.

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Originally posted by mikeyd501:
Not true.

Yes. It's true.

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Originally posted by mikeyd501:
Not relevant to this topic either but since you brought it up...

Oh, it's hella relevant.

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Originally posted by mikeyd501:
again let me tell you again, neither I, my father nor my grandfather when he came to this country ever killed an Indian or owned a slave.

By the way you are posting, you are leading me to believe otherwise. Good story though.

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Originally posted by mikeyd501:
If you are black or Indian I owe you nothing.

Not true. We owe each other human dignity and respect. We should treat others how we would like to be treated.

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Originally posted by mikeyd501:
My children owe you nothing.

Keep typing.....everyone is seeing you for who you really are. Again, everyone owes fellow mankind respect and we should all treat others like we want to be treated.

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Originally posted by mikeyd501:
You Dee Dee are not the only peoples who have suffered through out history and defiantly won't be the last.

Yes....I know....I remember what happened to the Natives as well as the slaves. You are right about this not being the 'last'.....with your kind of thinking......

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Originally posted by mikeyd501:
But don't ever try to put the guilt you may try to put on others on me.

Believe me, I'm not trying to put any guilt on anyone. If you are feeling that way....it's because of YOU. I'm simply reminding you of American History.

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Originally posted by mikeyd501:
I won't take it.

No, but you'll 'give' it won't ya?

[insert smirking smiley face here]

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Originally posted by mikeyd501:
If you’re an Indian and your family got killed by settlers, well that's life and history. How many settlers did the Indians kill?

I happen to be Native and I happen to know Mexica Indian history. The Mexicas were native to the southwest and they experienced what some of my Cherokee ancestors experienced as well.

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Originally posted by mikeyd501:
Once again none of my family were killed by Indians so I could give a ratsass.

Once again, for the simple-minded....if we don't remember history, we are DOOMED to repeat it.

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Originally posted by mikeyd501:
It makes for good reading and movies.

Keep typing....you are exposing your "heart", and the condition of it to everyone who reads this thread.

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Originally posted by mikeyd501:
The biggest killers of the Indians today is fatty foods and fire water from what I've seen!

The biggest killer of the Natives was their broken spirit when their land was stolen. I hope to inspire them out of "SOME" of their continued "mourning".



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Originally posted by DeeDee:

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What a dumb thing to say. A person who is caught for a DUI is entirely different than when a person comes here to America to work for a competitive wage to try and survive.

Those who are DUI are putting other people's life in DANGER. Get it? DANGER.

Oh yea I get it. So do they!

Everyone who knew paramedic Ryan Ostendorf agreed that he had a tremendously promising life ahead, as a cardiologist and married to his long-time girlfriend, Meagan Kennedy. But that future is not to be, because a previously deported drunk-driving illegal alien crashed head-on into Ryan's Jeep Cherokee and killed him.
A resident of Lawrence, Kansas, 28-year-old Ryan was driving to his paramedic job in Topeka when his car was hit. When the ambulance arrived on the scene, the paramedics were shocked to find the body of their friend and co-worker.
Victor Anzua-Torres was sentenced in Topeka in late June to a measly 13 years and nine months in jail for the head-on crash, which was the maximum sentence he could have received.

Anzua-Torres had a blood-alcohol level of 0.26 percent, more than three times the legal limit of 0.08, authorities said. He had no driver¹s license, had a prior drunken-driving arrest and had been deported as an illegal immigrant once before. [Drunken driver gets 13 years for fatal wreck, Lawrence Journal-World, 6/30/06]

Prosecutor Karen Wittman noted that Anzua-Torres insisted on driving to show how "bad" he was even though he was very drunk and a friend offered to drive. (Driving while drunk is believed by many hispanics to show macho attributes -- a reason why they are hugely overrepresented in drunk driving crashes.)
At sentencing, Ryan's friends and family spent two hours explaining how his death left a hole in their lives that would never go away.


You see Dee Dee liberals like you want to spin the illegal immigration problem as something equal to littering. My job is to show everyone how wrong you and your type are. It's not a victimless crime.

Dee Dee I'm not sure what your problem is but just because you're a chick you won't a free pass from me. When you say stupid stuff like that crap above I will make you aware of how dumb you were to open your mouth without thinking first.

DeeDee, I love you ! And I think I've got feelings for ExtensionCord too (especially since Mike rejected my mariage proposal).

Seriously, I deeply applaud both your interventions !

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Originally posted by mikeyd501:
You see Dee Dee liberals like you want to spin the illegal immigration problem as something equal to littering.

I'm no liberal. I'm a Reagan and W. BUSH FAN! Yeepah! Viva Bush! He had the right idea with immigration reform. haha! Nice try there, Mikey!

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Originally posted by mikeyd501:
Dee Dee I'm not sure what your problem is but just because you're a chick you won't a free pass from me.

I thought you were a 'chick' all along so don't worry about whether or not a poster is male or female here on the forum.

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Originally posted by mikeyd501:
When you say stupid stuff like that crap above I will make you aware of how dumb you were to open your mouth without thinking first.

Uh huh. Pick up an American History book. Thanks!

Have a nice day.

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Originally posted by flashman:
DeeDee, I love you ! And I think I've got feelings for ExtensionCord too (especially since Mike rejected my mariage proposal).

Seriously, I deeply applaud both your interventions !

Did you see that little cartoon video I posted? haha!


mmmmmuahs!



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Originally posted by Extensioncord:
Man, we've come a long was since Ronald Reagan's

Yes, but mark my words.....a Latina with passion will bring back the Reagan days!

VIVA LA REAGAN REVOLUCION! haha!

Another reason Dee Dee is wrong about Illeagls in this country. Yea yea yea they just want to pick my veggies. Like you voted for Reagan

Update: In January 2005, there was an incident in which 21-year-old illegal alien Francisco Serrano lived in a Minnesota high school for several weeks and posed as a student until he was discovered. At that time, locals rallied to his defense. High school kids made up "Free Francisco" t-shirts and evidently no parents were concerned that a lawbreaking adult male was rubbing elbows with their teenaged daughters.
A typical sentiment at the time was expressed in an editorial from the Pioneer Press, Story points to rising homelessness.

Serrano's legal problems detract from the focal point of this story, which is homelessness. We don't know if a fear of discovery as an illegal immigrant kept Serrano from seeking social services.
In October 2005, an immigration judge ordered Serrano back to Mexico. But the lawbreaker never boarded the plane and he later turned up as a violent felon in Boston.
A Boston woman said Serrano kicked in her apartment door and threatened to attack her early in the morning on March 29.
"He said, 'I'm not here to steal, I'm here to kill,'" the woman said, requesting anonymity.
Serrano's Minnesota attorney remarked, "I never figured Serrano for a ski mask and a butcher knife. He just didn't seem to have any violence in him."
This link includes a news video, which has a clip of Serrano in a pink sweater! (Here is a still photo.) An example of a lawyer playing extreme dress-up with a criminal client? Even the notorious parent-murdering Menendez brothers didn't go beyond muted pastels for a collegiate look in their trial makeover.

Or Dee Dee maybe you have an excuse for this one. Just a speeding ticket right!

Can you imagine a person being struck down and killed as she strolled out to check her roadside mailbox? That's what happened to Joyce Dargan of Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. She was hit by a car driven by a 14-year-old illegal alien Mexican (a student at the local high school) as he drag raced against another Mexican boy at speeds of 80 miles per hour.
As is so often the case, the perp had prior arrests, having been stopped twice for traffic violations in the six weeks before Joyce Dargan had been killed. As a result, her husband Waldeck observed that laxity about illegal immigration had contributed to his wife's death.
He vowed to be there when the boys are released from prison in six years to make sure they are deported. As juveniles, they received the maximum sentence.

Since you claim to have once been a cop maybe you'll like this one Dee Dee!

Dallas Police Officer Brian Jackson became another open borders statistic on Nov. 13 when he was shot and killed by illegal alien Juan Lizcano
Lizcano had become drunk and went to the home of his ex-girfriend to threaten her. As the police pursued Lizcano after he fled the woman's home, he shot Officer Jackson, who died later in the hospital.
Officer Jackson was remembered by his fellow police as someone who loved his job and always went the extra mile.

"From Day One, he just enjoyed police work and took pride in it. And he always wanted to learn everything he could. He was very dedicated," Officer Carcone said. "He went above and beyond.
"He'd stay late. He'd cover anybody. He was always looking to help everybody he could."
Jackson was 28 and had worked previously as part of an ambulance team. He had gotten married just two months ago.

Yep, all poor illegal immigrants just trying to live the American dream right Dee Dee. Get off your high horse and stop trying to put lipstick on this pig. You're a mecixan/indian who wants to fight for these scumbags to come here illigaly and kill more innocent people. I'm an American who does't want them to come here illegaly.

Go read a history book.

Next!

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Originally posted by mikeyd501:
Another reason Dee Dee is wrong about Illeagls in this country. Yea yea yea they just want to pick my veggies. Like you voted for Reagan

Update: In January 2005, there was an incident in which 21-year-old illegal alien Francisco Serrano lived in a Minnesota high school for several weeks and posed as a student until he was discovered. At that time, locals rallied to his defense. High school kids made up "Free Francisco" t-shirts and evidently no parents were concerned that a lawbreaking adult male was rubbing elbows with their teenaged daughters.
A typical sentiment at the time was expressed in an editorial from the Pioneer Press, Story points to rising homelessness.

Serrano's legal problems detract from the focal point of this story, which is homelessness. We don't know if a fear of discovery as an illegal immigrant kept Serrano from seeking social services.
In October 2005, an immigration judge ordered Serrano back to Mexico. But the lawbreaker never boarded the plane and he later turned up as a violent felon in Boston.
A Boston woman said Serrano kicked in her apartment door and threatened to attack her early in the morning on March 29.
"He said, 'I'm not here to steal, I'm here to kill,'" the woman said, requesting anonymity.
Serrano's Minnesota attorney remarked, "I never figured Serrano for a ski mask and a butcher knife. He just didn't seem to have any violence in him."
This link includes a news video, which has a clip of Serrano in a pink sweater! (Here is a still photo.) An example of a lawyer playing extreme dress-up with a criminal client? Even the notorious parent-murdering Menendez brothers didn't go beyond muted pastels for a collegiate look in their trial makeover.

You can sit there and give me examples until you are blue in the face.

It's clear to me you are not a business person, nor do you have any idea on how our economy works.

Would you like me to provide you with several million misdemeanor examples that are performed by 'legal white' people?




DARE ME.

Maybe this guy can come over to your house and meet the family. What to ya think Dee Dee? He just wanted to work construction and make more money.

Jose Ramirez is every American father's nightmare. The illegal alien from El Salvador beat up a 15-year-old girl after whistling at her. He broke her nose, fractured a bone in her face and produced cuts requring 30 stitches. The man worked in construction in Spotsylvania, Virginia, where the attack occurred, and resisted arrest to the point where police had to taser him.
The 28-year-old Ramirez of Prince William County was charged with aggravated malicious wounding and abduction with the intent to defile. Both charges carry potential life sentences. He is being held with no bond.

Police said he whistled at the girl as she walked by, then became enraged after the girl did not respond. Ramirez is accused of then running after the girl and pummeling her in the face and head, Kocher said.
According to authorities, the attacker then tried to drag the victim, fleeing into some woods only after a co-worker yelled for him to stop.
Apparently Ramirez thought this kind of behavior was not objectionable, since he attacked the girl in front of co-workers during daylight hours: what kind of culture produces such brutality against women and girls?
Furthermore, attacks of this sort will surely increase as the United States becomes more demographically Latinized, given the misogyny of hispanic culture.

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Originally posted by mikeyd501:
Maybe this guy can come over to your house and meet the family. What to ya think Dee Dee? He just wanted to work construction and make more money.

Jose Ramirez is every American father's nightmare. The illegal alien from El Salvador beat up a 15-year-old girl after whistling at her. He broke her nose, fractured a bone in her face and produced cuts requring 30 stitches. The man worked in construction in Spotsylvania, Virginia, where the attack occurred, and resisted arrest to the point where police had to taser him.
The 28-year-old Ramirez of Prince William County was charged with aggravated malicious wounding and abduction with the intent to defile. Both charges carry potential life sentences. He is being held with no bond.

Police said he whistled at the girl as she walked by, then became enraged after the girl did not respond. Ramirez is accused of then running after the girl and pummeling her in the face and head, Kocher said.
According to authorities, the attacker then tried to drag the victim, fleeing into some woods only after a co-worker yelled for him to stop.
Apparently Ramirez thought this kind of behavior was not objectionable, since he attacked the girl in front of co-workers during daylight hours: what kind of culture produces such brutality against women and girls?
Furthermore, attacks of this sort will surely increase as the United States becomes more demographically Latinized, given the misogyny of hispanic culture.

Mikey:


The terrorists of 9-11 came in via visas. Should we deny all Arabs from coming into our country because of 9-11.

I would rather pick my own veggies in Yuma if it would stop one more violent illegal from coming here. In fact I'll pick Dee Dee's veggies if she would help stop these scumbags that she has the nerve to compare to someone littering from stepping into the U.S.

Instead she and her friends are helping them get here safely so they can do more damage.

Please read this guy's story:

Jose Raul Pena is shown here with his daughter Suzie. An illegal alien from El Salvador earlier deported for cocaine possession, he was the doting father who used the little girl as a human shield in an hours-long Los Angeles shootout with police on July 10. Pena and Suzie were both killed.

During the incident, Pena used a 9-millimeter Beretta pistol which had been stolen last year in a burglary in Oregon. His office at the car dealership contained a bag of cocaine and a half-drunk bottle of Tequila — consistent with the illegal Pena's previous deportation for cocaine possession.
Videotape captured images of Pena shooting at the police while holding his daughter, yet his relatives are questioning not only whether he used his daughter as a shield, but whether he was even armed at all, according to the Los Angeles Times.
The "community" has gone into bad craziness over this horrible tragedy, blaming the police when the perp is clearly the guilty party: Pena chose to shoot it out and certainly snatched up the child as a shield, as pictures show.
The abused girlfriend of Pena, Lorena Lopez, has already gotten a lawyer for a multi-million-dollar lawsuit against the city of Los Angeles.
The new mayor, Antonio Villaraigosa, is more concerned with being a hispanic than providing support for the increasingly beleagured LAPD. The thin blue line is getting stretched thin in Los Angeles. If another city-wide riot blows up, having the National Guard overseas may make the situation even dicier.
And how does it happen that an illegal alien, deported for cocaine, apparently owned a used car lot?

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Originally posted by DeeDee:
I liked everything except for the 'illegal' alien part.

In response to the political ad regarding illegal aliens.....click below:

http://www.markfiore.com/animation/phobia.html

hahaha!

Thanks for the laugh Dee Dee. Why don't you send that link to one of those poor families whose loved ones were killed by the people you want to harbor and protect.

Or you can stop rallying for the law breakers and murders who want to bypass the right way to come here to work and become a productive member of our society.

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Originally posted by DeeDee:


Mikey:


The terrorists of 9-11 came in via visas. Should we deny all Arabs from coming into our country because of 9-11.

Typical response. Two wrongs don't make a right Dee Dee. Please help stop ALL ciminals from coming here. Not just the ones you like. Okay?