What is not acceptable is clearly indicated in the thread at the top of this board. A poll will have no meaning. This board is not run in a democratic fashion. It is owned by Cigar Aficionado and as such, they will determine what is acceptable content.
Are we back to Friday trolling again?
S.N.O.B #1015 "When you see a rattlesnake poised to strike, you do not wait until he has struck before you crush him." FDR, September 11, 1941
Posts: 881 | Location: San Diego, Ca. | Registered: August 12, 2003
Ok, this isn't going where I thought it would. No, I'm not trolling, why would you think that? And no, I didn't do an internet search; I'm perfectly happy with my own source thank you very much. If you read my post, you'll understand that I DIDN'T THINK THIS WOULD BE APPROVED, that's it. If there's some misconstrued meaning behind my post that others will read into, I've got no reason to keep it up. If you are going to start thinking I'm trying to go around the "source posting" I'll just stop now. Gosh, it makes me sick that so often do things get misunderstood on these boards.
The issue at hand breaches the topic of revealing source names so I want to find out whether or not I'm right in what I'm insisting will not be accepted here. Thanks
Just so there's no confusion which side of the argument I was on!!
Well, I think we can thank Hammurabi for his post yesterday which should lead to many more posts like this over the next few days. And we can thank CA for leaving Hammi's post up for so long! Now everyone can start posting questions about the sources they found through the link that Hammi posted. While we're at it we should thank CA for continuing to allow Hammurabi to post even though he intentionally and willfully broke the ONLY rule that this forum has.
And I'm sorry lstn2dmb, but I don't see how anyone could have misread your post. Since you already edited it, I will paraphrase. "Hey everyone, do you think we should take a poll on whether or not to discuss different sources? You know, whether they're good, bad, cheap, expensive, real, fake...that kind of stuff." Don't even tell me that my assessment is innacurate.
Seriously, I really don't understand the motives or reasoning behind the way this forum is run. It really does lead to complete and utter chaos. It is kind of interesting, at least for sheer entertainment value to see the melee that happens almost daily here. But thank God I don't rely on this particular site as my primary source for info on Cuba and Cuban cigars. I feel for those of you who do.
Who wants cake?
Posts: 195 | Location: Wise, VA | Registered: December 19, 2003
My God this is like trying to have a conversation with a pms-ing woman. Logic and reasoning does not work. Look, I don't know what Hami posted, nor do I care. I'll say in one last defence of myself, I wasn't asking a question about a "source", I was asking for a poll to explain to another member here, who will remain nameless, that discussing even the reputation of a source will violate the cardinal rule that David has set before us. This is it. As one other member has recently posted, I'm so glad this isn't my only source for information about C & CC's, otherwise, I'd learn nothing. Many of the members here have been so burned in the past that they now read too much into posts that could be twisted to be read another way. It's seriously what many of my friends wives do in a fight, they look to twist your words to mean what they think they "could have meant".
I'm done. You guys win. It's time to rejoice, I'm not going to post anything remotely requesting a response any more. I may give my own opinion, but you guys have beaten me into submission. I can't let my mood about cigars be ruined by this board. There's just so much animosity that I can't stand it. You win... All this in less than a month, nice effort. Oh, let the happiness and glee that I'm done begin, I'm sure quite a few of you are enjoying this.
TORVIG wrote: "There's a lot of knowledge on this board, and some helpful people. You just have to be willing to wade through a bunch of bs to get to it."
Well, there is some knowledge here, but there is on other boards, too. I personally don't see the point of having to wade through b.s. to get to that knowledge. There are many other forums out there where you can learn as much or more and not have to put up with all the pettiness, paranoia, elephantitis of the ego and trolling. CA apparently has failed to realize this or they would try to make this board run as smoothly as all the others.
There are a couple of other boards out there that former CA posters are emigrating to daily because of the insanity that goes on here. And they seem very relieved to have found another home besides here. After coming back here for a couple of weeks after a long hiatus, I can see why. Actually the # of knowledgeable posters has dwindled while the level of bickering has remained stable from when I first started reading here a year or so ago. Poor management, plain and simple. This forum is an afterthought for CA...their mag and newletter are where their bread is buttered. Oh well, I guess I'll check in here occasionally for some laughs, but for now, I think I'll be hanging where my shoes don't get smelly and dirty looking for and sharing info.
Who wants cake?
Posts: 195 | Location: Wise, VA | Registered: December 19, 2003
quote:Originally posted by TORVIG: There's a lot of knowledge on this board, and some helpful people. You just have to be willing to wade through a bunch of bs to get to it.
So very true, but is that any different from meeting up with friends at your local sports bar, as an example? Hang around, partake, and keep asking good questions. The members here are always willing to share.
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Wow, this is a strange thread. I don't see the controversy, nor do I know why you're getting all upset. Are you the "pms-ing" woman you speak of?
Let me make sure I understand your original question. You want to have a poll that attempts to meter the reputation of sources. What I don't understand is, how can you vote on the reputation of a vendor without mentioning its name? Code words?
I'm honestly not trying to upset anyone. I'm simply trying to figure out what kind of poll you're trying to conduct and what the format of it would be.
Aside from all that, sounds like you have a source and you are happy with what they're sending you. So why all this business about reputation? Are you trying to find a "back-up?"
spreelaw, why don't you return to your other boards. Sounds like they're WAY better than this place. Perhaps you should leave this place to all the "leftovers."
I don't get when people come here to say disparaging things, especially when they openly admit to liking other places better. Too much time on their hands, I guess.
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I didn't get to read the original post before you edited it, but in your further explanations you seem to indicate that you knew before hand that it was going to be a bad idea. I think it would be better for you and for all of us to resist the urge to do anything that we know is not a good idea before we click the final button. When I am angry at another idiot, I usually type out a scathing rant and just hit the back button before posting the reply. It usually is enough to get the venom out of my system and keep even more people off my own back. Again, my point is when you fully realize that something you are about to say is going to be a really bad idea, just don't do it. Then you wouldn't feel like the only thing left to do is leave. And "OK, that's it, screw it, I'm leaving" posts usually just get alot of "who cares" type comments, anyway. Just my two cents....actually about .38 cents.
KinnickKinnick
Posts: 657 | Location: New Orleans, LA | Registered: July 01, 2002
Wow, just when I thought it was getting better I see this thread!
BTW the madness continues a few threads away. InfrnalSky on the Taboada thread just posted a link to SEVERAL sources!
Thankfully most are crooked sources. So by ALL MEANS everyone get there quick!.......oh wait.....no hurry.......evidently posting sources is now a GOOD thing here!
HCF
Posts: 452 | Location: Haleiwa,HI,USA | Registered: April 14, 2003
I didn't post anything about sources. I posted a link to a website about Cuban cigars. It incidentally contains sources but I don't see any problem with that. Cigar Weekly dot com even advertises sources and mostly the good ones.
Sources are easy to find - just type "cuban cigars" in Google and here you have it. The problem is how to find a RELIABLE source. I don't understand why people here are better off if newbies lose their money with fake sources thus allowing them to survive and cheat further. Why wouldn't we just share the knowledge and destroy fake soruces and crooked vendors? Crooks and con artists survive only because the ignorance of buyers.
Saving your source for yourself? Well, here's a news for you: internet vendors sell cigars to THOUSANDS of buyers - every day. Five or fifty new buyers doesn't make any difference. And eventually - what guarantees you that newbies won't find your vendor on their own??
The funniest thing is that newbies can get the answers from just anybody. It's simple. Just scroll back to the old posts and you'll see posts like: source verification, could this vendor be trusted etc... They receive help via private emails. Where's the difference?
From the heart of EUROPE and the sunny side of the ALPS
Hammi, you know this subject has been debated in detail here and the results are always the same - don't discuss sources. You throw up some very good points, several that I can agree with, however, not only do the majority of members here not want sources openly discussed, but cA also has a policy stating the same. Its one of the few rules actually inforced by the moderators, e.g. your thread was taken down. Leave it at that and take the discussions to e-mail.
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And no, I didn't do an internet search; I'm perfectly happy with my own source thank you very much. If you read my post, you'll understand that I DIDN'T THINK THIS WOULD BE APPROVED, that's it. If there's some misconstrued meaning behind my post that others will read into, I've got no reason to keep it up. If you are going to start thinking I'm trying to go around the "source posting" I'll just stop now. Gosh, it makes me sick that so often do things get misunderstood on these boards.
