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My stash has been smoking bitter and harsh at the moment.
Smoked a R&J PC ok at first then got bitter.
Also smoked a HOYO prince and hadto chuck it out it was so foul.
Humi at 62-65
Could these be in a sick phase?
What make's cigars bitter too wet? too dry?too young? I have no box code as this were single's
HELP! Mad
 
Posts: 62 | Location: Middle Earth | Registered: October 14, 2003Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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use a tissue paper to absorb and remove the saliva which max with the trapped tar at the cigar head. could be better


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Posts: 120 | Location: Hong Kong | Registered: December 19, 2003Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Harsh, bitter taste can be a result of LOW humidity. All of your cigars from different boxes can't be sick at the same time.
 
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Keep the humidor up off the ground and away from the dog.
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Posts: 140 | Location: NC, USA | Registered: June 29, 2003Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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I agree with Rushbo on this. Although its not an opinion shared by most, I think 62-65 rh is too low and could be the cause of a hot, bitter smoke. Trial and error will eventually let you know where to keep your rh. Another thing to consider is how long did you let your singles acclimate to your humidor. Did you just receive them or did you let them rest a couple weeks?


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So bitter cigar's mean low humidty.Thank's will up it a bit.
The cigars have been resting 2 month's
I have just got in a box of CHOIX but will let them rest.
 
Posts: 62 | Location: Middle Earth | Registered: October 14, 2003Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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I have talked to a few people
Some say "wet" cigars taste bitter because the water in the cigar turn's to steam when lit and cause's it to go bitter.

Also "dry"cigars burn hotter and case a bitter taste.
My cigar's weren't burning hot...just harsh,bitter,sour,acid taste.
I don't know has anyone else come across this?
 
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I've noticed it when, as the other guys have said, my cigars are too dry/wet. Sour and acid make me think that it was wet, since i dont usually find those tastes with cigars that are too dry, but rather too wet. However if your cigars are at 62-65, I dunno.
 
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I'd still recommend raising the humidity for a few weeks to see if the cigars improve. I've smoked cigars in the upper 70's that were fine in the low 60's that were harsh/bitter. It's a trial and error procedure for your personal set up and tastes. The bigger the cigar the longer it might take to absorb the humidity internally. Give it a few weeks and update us on the results.
Too high a humidity and you'll increase the chance of mites, not beetles, but mites. Also, mold is likely at very high humidity (80's).
 
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Are you piercing or cutting?
Could be the tar accumultion at the tip.


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Posts: 8033 | Location: Cigar land | Registered: March 10, 2003Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Raise your humidity, lower your humidity...sorry, but you guys are just gonna get this guy confused. The first question should be if the vendor is legit. If it's not, the perfect humidity won't do a damn bit of good. 2nd question should be if anything strange has been introduced into the humidor...like a half-smoked cigar or if the humidor is lined with something besides non-aromatic cedar. IMO you don't want your humidity any lower than 62% and NEVER higher than 70%. Over 70% might be fine for non-Cubans, but Cubans are packed fuller and a tight draw will be the rule rather than the exception for a humidity level of over 70%.
 
Posts: 195 | Location: Wise, VA | Registered: December 19, 2003Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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I think that sometimes we also smoke our cigars too early cause it's all we've got and try to will them into being good. Havanas are fine cigars, but they can be pretty nasty without a little time and alot of care. The fewer cigars you have to start out with, the more this is going to happen. You WANT to smoke something, but it could be that nothing in the box is ready to smoke yet. Also, almost any Havana cigar that is spongy to the touch should be put back in the box. I find they should be hard but not too much crackle when squeezed.
That ought to confuse him, spreelaw.
PS...I also find that if you want to keep your humididty controllable but have no variance device, you should try to never completely fill your humidification device. Try to keep it half full, or at least not to the point where any extra spills out when charging. You'll get the hang of it. Filling to the max tends to cause too much fluctuation.
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Posts: 657 | Location: New Orleans, LA | Registered: July 01, 2002Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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I don't know the age of the single's so will try
one from my new box they are from 03 see how they go.
I did the salt test and it's off by 3% so they are kept at 65-68%
Thank's for all the help I think alot of cubans are hit or miss most of the time .
As for the vender if some one could e mail me at
madoncigars@hotmail.com
It would be good to verfiy.
 
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