On September 18, 2004, in the context of cigar internet sites, I was subjected publicly to what was without a doubt and without a question the single most vindictive, malicious and scornful written attack ever directed at me that, over the course of the 5 or so hours it was posted, was viewed by hundreds of people among you all, some of whom felt it appropriate to add their own insidious comments. Indeed, the comments and tirade had a profound impact on me. The author had as his intention and specific design to assassinate my character, call into question my loyalties and friendships, tear asunder my moral fiber, undermine my credibility and influence the opinions of others about me. It struck at my very essence, and far from being merely ashamed, I was and remain flabbergasted.
Be that as it may, and it remains beneath my dignity and stature to defend myself against the claims that were made or the accusations so insidiously levied (and I certainly do not confess to being party to any of the horrible things that were said about me and my character and my family, despite the nature of the things put in print and paraded in front of the world), life is simply too short and this realm of internet bantering simply too insignificant to harp on, give emphasis to, or focus on such matters or the person or persons responsible. Ever. Today I read an interesting article in the Newsweek magazine of September 27, 2004, in the “Health for Life” feature written by Jordanna Lewis and Jerry Adler. It is about forgiveness, and it did inspire me. We all need to move on.
I had contemplated a reply meritorious in every aspect to pursue my rights and defend myself against the charges levied, and seek retribution for the corresponding damages that came about as a consequence. However, I choose to abandon that course of action given the overall insignificance of the impact of what was said, where it was said, how it was said, and by whom. Some of you may be or may have been influenced in some material respect by what was said, most of whom do not know me at all except for the influence others may have on the decisions and choices you make in your lives. Nothing I will ever say, and nothing I can or would ever do, would ever change that perspective or view, so it is an exercise in futility to address the charges and allegations or the stories spun. Others who know me know differently about the kind of person I am, my personal and professional life, and a myriad of other things that I will gladly share with anyone who is interested. I certainly have nothing to hide, and I certainly have no excuses for, or anything to explain away about, any event or series of events that touch my life, or that I touch with my life. So indeed, there is absolutely no utility in rehashing events, defending myself, trying to set the record straight, or anything like that.
This is also a time in my faith where we individually are called upon to look introspectively about what is important and what is not important in our lives, and become better persons, and to seek forgiveness not only from others who may have been wronged by something we did or said, but also from the universal force of nature that guides us, whether it be God, Allah, Jesus Christ, or whatever force or spirit moves us, by shedding the shackles of revenge, retribution, and so on, that confine and bind us so that we may live fruitful and meaningful lives. Lives of charity and doing good deeds, helping others, and so on.
I certainly do not fear what was said by anyone. Right or wrong, accurate or not, these things have callously been made a matter of public record now. No matter that could be spun or about which tales could be told was left untouched, albeit in the most insidious and malicious of lights. People can say what they want, over and over again, and in the large scale of things, it does not matter.
Nevertheless, to he who initiated the outrageous and irresponsible personal attack, as evil and scornful as it was, I forgive you. You are forgiven. I do not need or require a retraction or an apology, you are simply forgiven for what you did and said. There will be no retribution, repercussions or revenge on my part, or any further response. What is done, what was done, has been done, and one cannot put toothpaste back in this tube. I was profoundly hurt by what was said and done, no doubt, and it was something that affected me not only in this little internet community, but in my own very real community as well. And this was, no doubt, by design. I did not seek such attention or cruelty, and I certainly was not deserving of it.
Nevertheless, he who wrote what he wrote and did what he did and said what he said, and those who followed suit, as well as those who insulted my recently deceased mother and others who shoved that in my face by posting about what a wonderful person he is who was low enough to do such a thing in the first place, is absolved and forgiven, from my perspective, anyway.
People will continue to think what they want to think, say what they want to say, attack when the feel they want to attack, but the bottom line is that the problem is not in any way, shape or form, my problem or burden to bear.
This is not about me having been beaten into submission as some may want to think and have the unmitigated gall actually to write or discuss. And this is not mere drama. Not by a long shot. I have nothing to fear about the person who did such things, and certainly not by the truth of any circumstance or event or series of events in my life that the person saw fit to judge and comment upon. I take full and complete responsibility for each and every such thing. Nor do I fear any lies or spun tales that some people see fit to promulgate, repeat or about which they may choose to gossip. There is nothing worse than what has already been done and said that anyone can do to me as a person, and certainly words, gossip and innuendo are no exception.
May whatever source of inspiration or guiding light in your life sincerely shine down upon you so that you may have the happiness and contentment you all deserve. No need to respond, reply, comment upon or anything else. And if you are still interested in taking your best shot, I am sorry, but I do not think that there is anything any worse than what has already been done which means that there really is nothing further to say. By anyone. Good or bad. Anywhere.
I regret that you all were subjected to the matters that were raised and how they were raised, and humbly apologize for being a part of such negativity.
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Posts: 10302 | Location: Avenida de las Nalgas, Quericæstan | Registered: May 02, 2002
Way to go. Cream rises to the top. Gotta love that 1-star it means you strike a nerve. Worry when you get 5 because it seems to be a reverse barometer of quality.
If ignorance is bliss .............. Why aren't there more happy people walking around?
I for one do not pay attention to gossip and slander, and am not swayed by the opinions of others when another persons character is in question.I also pay attention and have learned alot about cc's from RYJ.I feal like he has saved me a lot of time and money.
...let's try to remember that this is the internet and not CBS News. I understand that people's feeling can get hurt, jaw's torqued, ire's raised; however, the attacks that take place here are no more than being flipped off by an irrate driver who thinks that you just cut him off. I'm not defending what was is alledged to have been written about RyJ, rather I'm saying that who the f*ck cares about what is written here about someone, by someone else, who most people know have never physically interacted with the very person whose character they are attacking.
I read things on this, and other boards, that I take with a grain of salt. I really don't care about having a "reputation" good or bad on any BB. While I would not participate with the sole intention to harrass or cause hate and discontent, I'm sure that I may eventually post something someone may vehemently disagree with, and would almost certainly let me know. This is the consequence of posting on BB's. I am more concerned with opinion of those close to me, than people I have not personally met. A few years ago, a fellow poster from a BB asked me to "vouch" for him. We had done box splits, gifted cigars, and personal correspondence. However, I never physically met this person, and for that reason, told him I could not do what he was asking. Consequently, we no longer correspond with each other. Ce la vis!! Sometimes I think too much info is passed on this board (just my opinion), but I can see where this may be used against someone. I have seen posters "outed" here, affairs revealed (yeah, as in a poster intimate with another poster's spouse, et al), just some downright stupid stuff!
I've said all this just to say that with the annonymity of this place, this crap is going to happen. Some of these things are true and some are not. If you are the victim, know that some here are smart enough to form their own opinions. This not a court of law; people can find you guilty here without any evidence, just as easy saying you're innocent without any of the same. I want to get along with people, but if I don't here; no big deal.
While there are some "well respected" members on this board, with better than average knowledge of other posters; I would not call them experts, but others do - and they believe it. That is subjective, as are most posts on this board.
Finally, I have seen "drive-bys" on BB's where people shoot at others, and wound the bystanders in the process. Maybe that should happen via separate and private correspondence; including any rebuttals.
Subjectively Yours, Lethrnek
Posts: 378 | Location: Norfolk, VA | Registered: August 19, 2003
It's a terrible feeling to have your name and reputation besmirched by anonymous entities, but they are just that. "Sticks and stone may hurt my bones, but words can never hurt me." A truer statement was never said. It's good to know RyJ has the determination of his convictions not to act out in a negative way. With the linguistic eloquence he has shown us here, it is no doubt he is capable of unleashing a litany of verbal venom that would shake the foundation of this forum. It just proves that he is better than they.
We live in impersonal times, in an anonymous environment. People can say what they want, knowing there will be no reprisal. These same brave individual would never entertain the idea of saying things like this if they were facing you, but they have the Huevos to print it on a website.
Unfortunately, what has happened here, as Lethrnek, has pointed out, is why I don't believe in getting too personal with others. (i.e. Emailing each other, trading cigars, sharing phone numbers, using 'first names' in posts, etc...) We've seen time and again where these things have come back to bite people in the rear. Lethrnek's is a good example.
I'll share my idea's and opinions, but nothing else. Cynical? Yes Protective, private, and safety-minded? Definitely
It may be a sad state of being, that, I know, I will never meet any of you, you will never know my real name or where in Spain I live (if I'm actually in Spain when I'm posting) and that may be my loss.
I hope this isn't the last post we will get from RyJ. I will miss his unique style.
############################## "Time is a thief, it will steal your tomorrows. So, smoke a cigar today." --BB King (and a little Paleto)
Posts: 519 | Location: A Guarda, España | Registered: May 03, 2002
Allow me to disagree, Lethrnek. When your name is being dragged through the mad no matter if it is CBS or internet it is in fact very-very unpleasant. Knowing RyJ for quite a while now I have to take his side on this one.
Though Paleto has a good point of not getting too personal, some people are just too kind and readily open their house, their hart too others, I unfortunately not one of them RyJ is. He has opened his hart to me as well as to many others. Unfortunately some people only know how to take advantage of his kindness.
Good smoking. Igator
Posts: 303 | Location: USA | Registered: May 06, 2002
I have seen a lot of mud thrown every which way on the board. I just search for the knowledge of cigars and try and assist people with their knowledge and understanding of cigars. I have met some people on the boards, and I also do not vouch for anyone I do not personally know.
Lets just get back to the sublject of Cuban cigars on this forum, I personally think that Savona should lock or delte threads that drag up and personal affronts.
Might you be tempted by a Tito Fuente Robusto Triple? It is sublime at any time of day with a chilled Fresca. Or from my personal "Palette of Adventure" series you may choose to indulge yourself with a CIAO Extrema petit panetela. Always our master blender is stumbling upon new and exciting creations!
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Posts: 9 | Location: La Habana | Registered: May 19, 2002
He's the best Gluey! He's the only vendor that's ever had the San Cristobal Las Putas in the fur lined humidor or the Felix Trinidad Tre Petit Slenderella. The rarest of rare.