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That trailer park jibe reminded me of the joke that people that live in basement apartments have low suicide rates.

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opium1 or greek semi-monster,

Wow over 1600 posts & your just a bag of hot air. Your just a cheap shot artist. You have contributed nothing, but attacks to this discussion. You are a Follower, so Get Out of the Way, or make a valid point.

"It's the U.S. soldier, not the protester who gives you the freedom of speech"
 
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Of course I'm pro Bush, if you read back to my first post, that is why I first got envolved in this discussion. I am very pro-USA too. And when people attack the USA as an evil & cheap(50K), and then tell me Castro did the right thing because he has pride, I say B***S***.
You can't have it both ways. People have said Castro did the right thing in turning down the offer & in the same statement say 50K was to little.
Which is IT?

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These posts are reminiscent of someone other than Oedipus. He never beat the lunch money out of anybody or laughed his FAO like this...

Looks like the answer my friend, IS blowing in the wind...and nobody can see fit to leave well enough alone. Which is how it started off, and how it will always be...par for the course from the absolute inception. I didn't know that these 'visits' were a reality until I heard about a Detroit 'assignment'.

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Dan...I'm pro-Bush, anti-Castro and tried to stick up for you earlier in this tired thread. Give it a rest, move on to other topics. You're not making friends and are just falling for the bait.
 
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O Man, I will take your advice, but I really have fun debating with people here, I not gonna have a heart attack or anything. I enjoy it. I mean how do you think Rush got so popular, Rush I am not, but its fun to take on their attacks & bring out their true colors.

"It's the U.S. soldier, not the protester who gives you the freedom of speech"
 
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@danstufft

I didn't say that he had to revoke every sum. But 50k are a very bad joke of your so social and christian Bush, isn't it?
If he really wanted to help he didn't make such a tasteless offer. I told you - even private persons and smaller countrys offered more help than the big and oh-so-christian USA...

Ah, and the help isn't for Castro. You do the same what you are telling, the "evil foreigners" are doing: Castro=Cuba. It is the same if I write (I never do so) Bush=USA. Think about this! We are talking about help for cuban people, not for dictators Wink
 
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How much did Germany offer Cuba ?

Please let me know how the U.S. is to help Cuba with Castro in the way.

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You mean it is useless to have a political discussion? Or do you think, we are enemys, because we have different point of views?

It's a pity, if you think so. Even in our cigar-club "los Robustos" we have somtimes hard political disputes; not at all we are friends Wink
 
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They sended 2 containers with medicaments (seen in news). Surely more then 50k Wink
 
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dagobert,
Thats all they sent what a shame, how can you live there, Bad Germany, Bad.
Does this sound familiar.

The U.S.A. sends more foreign aid than any other country in the world, we are not evil, we do what is right when we can and try even if it is useless too.


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Shame on me - it was even not only from governent, No! Some firms like Bayer put goods into the containers! And the value of approx. 500k EUR is really a shame for the huge Germany; not as like the small US, who offered such a giant sum like 50k Fulas WinkBig Grin
 
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dagobert,
The U.S.A. sends more foreign aid than any other country in the world. Try to bat that down.

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dagobert,

I was not saying Germany did not do anything, I was using it to make a point. Who says how much is too little or how much is too much ?

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Dag...you are not the enemy, political discussions are not useless...I have supported you and fought you on these pages...just this is a topic that's been beaten into the ground a thousand times...if you guys want to continue to argue about it, go ahead.
 
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The U.S.A. sends more foreign aid than any other country in the world. Try to bat that down.

May be. But not in this case, because there is a big danger for Bush: less votes from Florida *lol*

And (forgot to say) the most human aid in US comes from private people, i.e. Bill Gates or Steve Job's foundations. NOT from goverment. They even count tanks and bombs for Iraque as human aid *lol*

@O-Man:
You are right Wink But for me it is always funny, what arguments people are using to support Bush. Even in a case where humanity should go over political aspects. Naturally that should be told both sides - Bush AND Castro. In this case are both guys real heart- and brainless.
 
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Hey Alex the boy king, feel free to come after my lunch money anytime.

You're what? forty something and still doing the tough street boy jive. Unmarried loser posting nude pictures of a girlfriend and then making cracks about other people's wives. Lying phony who can't even maintain an honest identity here. Real class act you turned out to be.

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How much is too little, I can tell you by a sample. It is, if you give a homeless diabetic (w/o money) a free injection needle and tell him: now go and buy insuline...

Wink Think about this.
 
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danstufft,

Just a small correction. The United States does not send the most foreign aid, it is Japan. And if you do it per capita, the USA is well out of contention, ranking well down the list of developed, first world countries.
 
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