danstufft i am here in the US, as a matter of fact NOLA. that being New Orleans LA, where unemployment is 51% and illeratcy is 37%, without education people are unable to get jobs that can at least keep them off welfare. and i have watched the prices of things increase as the salaries and pay, stays the same. as for not mentioning the Soviet Union, i did not include it as when Stalin took power and perhaps even before it was doomed to fail as the Cult of personality was larger than marxist system. i know this for one of many reasons one being that i have a degree in Soviet Politics,that i got before the USSR came crashing down due to the rise of Nationalism within the Union brought on by Glasnost and peristrokia, in Cuba it is a different revolution, one in which pre-Castro you had an almost apartied system operating there as 86% of Cuba's population is black and were working farms much like slaves, without healthcare, education or hope. Castro and jos revolution brought that to the entire island, not just Havana and the US coperations that worked the majority of the population. many lived in huts made themselves or were homesless, the infant mortality rate was atrosious, now it is among the leaders in many of these fields, o don't disagree that Fidel has strayed from the doctrines as was needed in some cases to keep the revolution alive, as well as making mistakes that cost lives, but when you compare their revolution with ours, they are similar in that each country wanted to be soverign and did what was necessary to acheieve those means. The Us has had a turbulent history of mistakes, but as soon as the nation was ready they were fixed or the policies changed, the same can be argued of Cuba. they are going through the growing pains of building a real nation with the human being the key to the sucess of how it eventually turns out, however since the begining of the revolution they have had to deal with assaults by and from the US, either economuclly or by US propaganda. They only want to determine their own future and not have another country force one on them, even though at prese4nt that is what the US is doing, even breaking international laws doing so, looking the other way while the terrorist group Alpha 66, continues it's efforts in an attempt to kill off Fidel. Also breaking international law, the US flies a military aircraft around the waters of Cuba, broadcasting Radio and TV Marti signals which contain propaganda, aimed at bringing down the Cuban Govt, and the Us already has a Govt ready to install in it's place. so eventhough the US may not agree with the Cuban revolution, it should at least let it develop and grow into whatever it will become. and as i said even the US made mistakes on it's way to where it is now, and those mistakes continue and one day will be the downfall of the US. The US continues to agaitate a Govt and a nation that has been relatively peaceful during it's creation and is no longer a threat to the US in any way( even Fidel now agrees that the missles the USSR placed there was a mistake in thinking the long term out, however Cuba had just been invaded by the US trained forces at the Bay of pigs, and Cuba had to defend it's country against further US backed invasions,the present policy is a failure, yet we continue it. when the US if is trully concerned it should look at North Korea, Iran, and other such countries, yet the US spends more money on inforcing the travel ban and embargo , than it does on helping reshape countries that are a big threat to the world, not just the US. Hands Off Cuba.
The Eternal Marxist
Posts: 997 | Location: Habana del Este/ NOLA | Registered: May 04, 2002
quote: i am here in the US, as a matter of fact NOLA. that being New Orleans LA, where unemployment is 51% and illeratcy is 37%, without education people are unable to get jobs that can at least keep them off welfare.
If you are going to post a statistic please be accurate and cite your source. Unemployment for New Orleans, LA in July 2004 was 5.9% (Large Metropolitan Areas) according to the U.S. Dept. of Labor. In all fairness that does rank in the bottom 1/3 for unemployment in large cities, but saying 51% is just a flat-out lie.
As far as your claim to 37% illiteracy - I doubt your number is correct. I'm too tired to research it, but given some previous statements I'm content in just saying to everyone:
Take Ferdelance's statements with a grain of salt.
About Harvard- and other degrees: If Bush were soo good, why he set some firms in bancrupty, needed money from the bin Ladins? I have "only" 10 classes, 3 professions (2 of them in evening schools), speak 4 languages (more or less correct), got a military school graduation and surely have a higher IQ than this bushwhacker. But I have not the right dad to promote me, and I am in the wrong party too And I cannot telling lies without to get red ears And I don't want to be in the politics; this business is too dirty for me.
So Harvard means NOTHING. If you have enaugh money (and I am talking about a real high sum) you probably can get professional help to go through the tests...
quote: About Harvard- and other degrees: If Bush were soo good, why he set some firms in bancrupty, needed money from the bin Ladins? I have "only" 10 classes, 3 professions (2 of them in evening schools), speak 4 languages (more or less correct), got a military school graduation and surely have a higher IQ than this bushwhacker. But I have not the right dad to promote me, and I am in the wrong party too And I cannot telling lies without to get red ears And I don't want to be in the politics; this business is too dirty for me.
dagobert, If you love this discussion so much why don't you try contributing to it. Your all attack & no substance. You sound like a michael moore spouting out propaganda, with no facts to back it up. So your not rich like the Bush family, quit crying about it.
"It's the U.S. soldier, not the protester who gives you the freedom of speech"
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Posts: 508 | Location: Dallas, TX, US | Registered: July 13, 2004
ferdelance, If your in New Orleans, I hope you got out of there before the Hurricane, I thought everyone there was told to evacuate, I work with someone that has family there. Also, on a deeper note, in reading what you have wrote IMO you are just a brainwashed commy propagandist. It would be a waste of my time to try to debate you. We just have to look at history to know your time is short, enjoy.
"It's the U.S. soldier, not the protester who gives you the freedom of speech"
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Posts: 508 | Location: Dallas, TX, US | Registered: July 13, 2004
I predict the end of the American empire by 2030. 2050 max!
I do not wish for this to happen nor do I think that this would be good for me.
Unless China and India exhaust themselves into polluted, eroded, depleted and epidemic ridden over-population first. All you religious fanatics out there. You know what to pray for! HEAL, HEAL, DO YOU BELIEVE?
QM Quality does not occur by chance. It is the result of intelligent activities.
Posts: 7943 | Location: Cigar land | Registered: March 10, 2003
Quebecmike, To quote you "I predict the end of the American empire by 2030. 2050 max" Nice prediction, I needed the laugh this morning. Who's gonna protect your "we surrender" country if that happens ? The U.S. Postal service employees could envade & overthrow the Canadian goverment.
"It's the U.S. soldier, not the protester who gives you the freedom of speech"
Posts: 508 | Location: Dallas, TX, US | Registered: July 13, 2004
“Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed rounds.”
The US Postal Service's unofficial motto.
But it sleets a lot in Canada. Not to forget slush and ice fogs. But I'm sure you know about fog. Probably been wondering around in one for the last 10 years.
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Posts: 7943 | Location: Cigar land | Registered: March 10, 2003
Ron, Is that your example of my "so called propaganda"? Nice try, all I wanted Ron was an example of something I have said here that you considered propaganda. All attack no substance, professor.
"It's the U.S. soldier, not the protester who gives you the freedom of speech"
Posts: 508 | Location: Dallas, TX, US | Registered: July 13, 2004
And I don't want to be in the politics; this business is too dirty for me.
