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$50,000 sure seems like a ridiculous sum to offer.

Paleto, I am sure if he were referring to North or South America he would have said so. We often refer to our country as just America. Get over it.

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Alright guys, the kid made a mistake...

Paleto,, did you know there are more Spanish speakers in the Americas than English speakers? About 330m to 320m (including all biliguals in US and Canada). There are about 15m French speakers (more in Haiti than Quebec)
 
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I wonder WTF Canada did?

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Don't forget ebonics. Big Grin
 
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Not withstanding,if Danstufit was a neighbour who had tried to have me assasinated and then 30 years later offered me a cigar , guess where I would tell him to stuffit!

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O Man -- my point exactly.
kechke --again, my point exactly.

I am really sorry, if I made it sound like a comparison between Terrorism and a hurricane.

I simply meant that Castro's years of disgust with 'America' is the same as American's feelings toward Osama.

For the record: I am an American living and working in Spain. I am darn proud of our country. I have spent every day for the past 10 years defending the US to people here who think what they see on CNN and BBC is how American's really think. I wish you could see this programming in the states. It would make you all puke.

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Paleto; Please e-mail me . The addy is in my profile.

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Castro and Cuba have their pride,if little else. The USA has said F-you to Cuba for 43 years and dubya re-affirmed it with the lastest legislation. X
 
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"I believe the language I'm reading is english, & I'm in America............. Any other questions"

Still don't see the logic. I think you are trolling.

Let me guess you smoke Swisher Sweets?
 
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I don't know why I thought $35. My memory is failing me. Thanks for the correction, Rushbo. I think the point remains the same despite my foul up.

dublstuftoreo, I'm not sure I see what the problem is. You must not like us. I know of a great new cigar board that would love you. Let me know if you want the address.

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Dhoffman,
Please read the whole discussion,
Previously,
Quit attacking me & attack the point. " Why would Castro not accept the money ". My point is he should of taken the money & helped his people.
A real leader would of stood up, swallowed his pride, & helped out his people. Castro is not a leader he is a dictator.
And if I smoked swisher sweets,I wouldn't know about Cigar Aficionado, & I would not be contributing my point of view.
Why don't you go smoke off one of your San Fran Bay Area buddies.I'm sure they will enjoy your input.

[This message was edited by danstufft on September 14, 2004 at 08:18 PM.]
 
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Coriolanus,
Are you saying a different point of view than some people in this forum is not welcome. Your starting to sound like Castro.

[This message was edited by danstufft on September 14, 2004 at 08:27 PM.]
 
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with billions of dollars flowing in and out of that country every year, you think $50K is going to make a difference? Damage estimates were in the tens of millions of dollars! Let's see. Start with a meager $10,000,000.00 at a PALTRY 8%, is $800,000 a year...or about $67,000 a month.

no WONDER you elected that guy governer and blindly followed him to DC.

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Armando A. Arciga sr ,

U.S. policy's have not been screwing Cuba, Castro has been screwing Cuba. Ask the Cuban people why they are in the economic state they are in. It is not the U.S. it is Castro & his policies.

Again " Attack the points not the person " its a cute liberal trick, but it justs spins the issue.
 
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danstufft,

Take a valium and relax
 
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No, I'm not saying that at all. You just don't seem to like people who are sympathetic toward Cuba and its people.

Your argument doesn't work because you don't see the symbolic value of the refusal. Castro doesn't think that "every little bit helps." He will use his refusal as a way of defying the "imperialist dogs" to the north.

Maybe if you did more reading and less writing you would begin to understand why he doesn't just "take the money." Sometimes making a symbolic gesture is worth far more than $50K.

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Did Shakey change his screen name AGAIN! LMAO
 
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No, it's the combination of American policies and Castro's actions. It's not one or the other. Castro feeds off the policies -- without them, he would be less powerful, maybe powerless.

It's not about casting blame on one or the other. What this has to do with is the synergistic power Castro reaps because of bad US policies. The policies make Castro possible.

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Did Coriolanus just say & I quote:

Castro doesn't think that "every little bit helps." He will use his refusal as a way of defying the "imperialist dogs" to the north.

Airbourne82, I'm gonna take your advice.
 
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Yes, you got it exactly right. What's your point?

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