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I've noticed the OFAC fines for individuals have been declining across the board. The $ amounts, frequency, and number of individuals. Seemed like 2-3 yrs ago OFAC was really hammering people, now they seem to be drastically tallying off.

Is OFAC redirecting there focus elsewhere, running out of names, or just having a harder time catching people?


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"Every American should worry about a Justice Department that doesn't know if waterboarding is torture and can't tell the difference between prosecution on the one hand and persecution on the other,"


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Again no individual OFAC fines for Jan 2008. That's three straight month with zero fines for cuban cigars : )


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I think the Phishing scam is over but you never know only time will tell.


"Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God"
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"The tree of freedom must be nurtured from time to time with the blood of its patriots"
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"When the Government Fears the People, There is Liberty; When the People Fear the Government, There is Tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson
 
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Originally posted by SHEEPSHEAD BAY:
I think the Phishing scam is over but you never know only time will tell.


man, that's hilarious..... and to say that peopeel weren't warned....
 
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man, that's hilarious..... and to say that peopeel weren't warned....


Yeah but do they ever listen?


"Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God"
-Thomas Jefferson

"The tree of freedom must be nurtured from time to time with the blood of its patriots"
-Thomas Jefferson

"When the Government Fears the People, There is Liberty; When the People Fear the Government, There is Tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson
 
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for those of you who are not aware...
a recent GAO report (sponsored by congress people Charles Rangel (Brooklyn NY) and Barbara Lee (oakland CA)- came out very critical on customs and the OFAC

read the report here...

http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d0880.pdf

In a nutshell they were very critical of customs and OFAC for having an extraordinary and disporportionate amount of cuban violations compared to the many other sanction programs...

and the report also raised much concern as to why these "non-terrorist" actions enforcement were somehow a priority of customs and OFAC - when countires such as n. korea and iran, possed a far greater national security threat than people going to cuba or buying cigars...
(amen brother!!!)

although everyone knows correlation does ont equal causation...but if you look at this months OFAC actions - it appears that Iran is in the crosshairs.

i waouldnt say it's 100% safe, but it looks as if the tide is turning...lets hope with a new admin in 2008 things will get even better...

Bf
 
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I just bought some laptops from Dell Canada...and although we really don't give a sh!t about a computer making it's way to Iran, Syria or North Korea, this Canadian telephone saleswoman asked me as part of the pre-amble whether I was going to export my computers to the Axis of Evil???? Now who in the hell cares? My God. Dell is an American based company, the government is obviously targetting the computer companies again. My god, I have bought a dozen computers from these folks over the years. Sometimes direct from the US when there were advantages with the dollar markets...but I have never had that before....I asked the gal....If I was going to send this to Korea....should I address it to someone special?????

Korea develops a nuclear bomb....do they need Dell laptops now!?!??!?!?!?!!?!?

Governments at work....
 
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I just bought some laptops from Dell Canada...and although we really don't give a sh!t about a computer making it's way to Iran, Syria or North Korea, this Canadian telephone saleswoman asked me as part of the pre-amble whether I was going to export my computers to the Axis of Evil???? Now who in the hell cares? My God. Dell is an American based company, the government is obviously targetting the computer companies again. My god, I have bought a dozen computers from these folks over the years. Sometimes direct from the US when there were advantages with the dollar markets...but I have never had that before....I asked the gal....If I was going to send this to Korea....should I address it to someone special?????

Korea develops a nuclear bomb....do they need Dell laptops now!?!??!?!?!?!!?!?

Governments at work....


You seem to have cunningly avoided the pertinent question: Are you going to export your laptops to the axis of evil? Well? ARE YOU? I'm going to tell on you.


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D@mn it man, I am trying to make a living here....quit telling me what to do, who I sell top end CONSUMER computers to!!!

I need to make some contraband moolah so I can pay off divorce and get back into avoiding CanCustomsTaxPolice with my cigar collection.....

Now kindly look the other way...as I just push this lever....
 
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And YES I am selling all my computers to Fidel, Knuckelhead from Iran and DoffTop from Korea....who do you think sends DoffTop (AKA Glorious Leader) his Louis XIV cognac...everyone knows Canada is like the cheapest place to buy it...and Glorious Leader is short of authentic american dollars at the moment...his counterfeit stuff doesn't fly down at the corner store anymore here in rural Saskatchewan....
 
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Ouch, I knew luck had to run out sooner or later. Sucks to be the guy that got hit for $5K for buys he made from Nov 04-Jul 06.

Feb 2008 Individual OFAC Fines--

One individual has agreed to a settlement totaling $2,127.45 for allegedly dealing in property in which Cuba or a Cuban national had an interest: In February 2005, one individual allegedly purchased Cuban-origin cigars offered for sale on the Internet. The individual did not voluntarily disclose this matter to OFAC.

One individual has agreed to a settlement totaling $456.95 for allegedly dealing in property in which Cuba or a Cuban national had an interest: In December 2004 and March 2005, the individual allegedly purchased Cuban-origin cigars offered for sale on the Internet. The individual did not voluntarily disclose this matter to OFAC.

One individual has agreed to a settlement totaling $5,213.42 for allegedly dealing in property in which Cuba or a Cuban national had an interest: Between November 2004 and July 2006, the individual allegedly purchased Cuban-origin cigars offered for sale on the Internet. The individual did not voluntarily disclose this matter to OFAC.

One individual has agreed to a settlement totaling $358.15 for allegedly dealing in property in which Cuba or a Cuban national had an interest: In December 2004 and January 2005, the individual allegedly purchased Cuban-origin cigars offered for sale on the Internet. The individual did not voluntarily disclose this matter to OFAC.

One individual has agreed to a settlement totaling $1,082.90 for allegedly dealing in property in which Cuba or a Cuban national had an interest: In January 2004, March 2004 and April 2004, the individual allegedly purchased Cuban-origin cigars offered for sale on the Internet. The individual did not voluntarily disclose this matter to OFAC.


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Thats a tough bill to pay. Do they pull the info from credit card statements? How else would such a wide date range be available for them?
 
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Feb 2008 Individual OFAC Fines--


Do you have a link to this site or is it by subscription?

Were these people that tried to claim shipments intercepted or does a violator just wake up one morning with a knock on the door? 4 years later no less? Anyone?
 
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Here's the link to OFAC's monthly enforcement report: http://www.ustreas.gov/offices/enforcement/ofac/civpen/penalties/02222008.pdf
 
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Originally posted by Smartman:
Again no individual OFAC fines for Jan 2008. That's three straight month with zero fines for cuban cigars : )


Smartman, are you disappointed?

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Ouch, I knew luck had to run out sooner or later. Sucks to be the guy that got hit for $5K for buys he made from Nov 04-Jul 06.


And this made you happy? why?
 
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Originally posted by Smartman:
Again no individual OFAC fines for Jan 2008. That's three straight month with zero fines for cuban cigars : )


Smartman, are you disappointed?


I think ": )" means happy, not disappointed.

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Ouch, I knew luck had to run out sooner or later. Sucks to be the guy that got hit for $5K for buys he made from Nov 04-Jul 06.


And this made you happy? why?


I think you say "ouch" when you're hurt, not when you're happy.
 
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[QUOTE]Feb 2008 Individual OFAC Fines--


Do you have a link to this site or is it by subscription?

http://www.treas.gov/offices/enforcement/ofac/actions/20080222.shtml
 
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freak out


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Thanks base. Been reading old threads for the last hour. Pretty nasty
 
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