Let's say you have a very trustworthy deal that you knew wouldn't screw you over. If that retailer said you could pay with a money order instead of a credit card, would you? Do you all think the risk would be lower? You wouldn't have a credit card company to worry about. So, is the risk lower,the same, or higher? Now don't included the risk of the person taking your money, I'm just talking about getting one of those nasty letters.
"Think for a moment about whether it is ethical to throw a living creature into boiling water before sucking it down with a cup of melted butter"
Boy is this the million dollar question. I guess I would say your risk would be lower if the vendor was not red flagged already. But give the fact that the vendor may already be on some nutz list somewhere....the risk may be to much.
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Well, if you're close with the source, you could technically send them a money order and just fill out the "from" part with a pseudonym. I don't think there'd be any way to track it to you then, right?
Posts: 301 | Location: Toronto | Registered: February 02, 2007
No, they can't track money orders. It's one way that criminals launder money
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Thanks for the input guys. What got me thinking about the whole thing was when I started to hear those request for information letters are due to credit card companies blabbing to the government. Am I correct in thinking that? If so, if there isn't a credit card company...
I know the bank where I get it from could be asked something but if they're only looking for credit card purchases from a specfic credit card company, I think it would be somewhat safer.
I don't know, I never purchased a money order before. Do they fill out the "to" and "from" things for you, or can you just do it at a later date?
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"Think for a moment about whether it is ethical to throw a living creature into boiling water before sucking it down with a cup of melted butter"
Unfortunately, a money order is as good as cash on your end. If it gets lost in the mail, you're out that amount of money as you pay for a money order up front. That's another thing to consider...
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Plus...the miles. What about the miles...gotta get those miles...
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Ask them if they will take a western union money gram.In the otherside of town were I live there is a place a day laborer turned me on to.Money gram and wire trasfers no questions asked untraceable....
Originally posted by jms2788: Thanks for the input guys. What got me thinking about the whole thing was when I started to hear those request for information letters are due to credit card companies blabbing to the government. Am I correct in thinking that? If so, if there isn't a credit card company...
I know the bank where I get it from could be asked something but if they're only looking for credit card purchases from a specfic credit card company, I think it would be somewhat safer.
I don't know, I never purchased a money order before. Do they fill out the "to" and "from" things for you, or can you just do it at a later date?
I used to pay all my bills in college with money orders. You walk up to the gas station cashier (who can give a rip) and tell them you need a money order for $x, and they bill you $x, plus a small fee (couple dollars at best). They hand you the blank MO and you walk out.
If you loose it, you loose. The other poster is correct about Western Union, but they require more paper work than federal grant.
I had someone pay me recently in WU, and I had to stand around this grocery store for a half hour waiting for this chick to figure all this crap out. I had to fill out forms, etc. It was painful, and I hope it never happens again.
It would be possible to just fedex your money order and insure the document to cover your MO. If the vendor will take this, then you are in theory golden.
If this works and is an advantage, I may try this too.
Posts: 613 | Location: Alabama | Registered: November 09, 2006
Originally posted by jms2788: Thanks for the input guys. What got me thinking about the whole thing was when I started to hear those request for information letters are due to credit card companies blabbing to the government. Am I correct in thinking that? If so, if there isn't a credit card company...
I know the bank where I get it from could be asked something but if they're only looking for credit card purchases from a specfic credit card company, I think it would be somewhat safer.
I don't know, I never purchased a money order before. Do they fill out the "to" and "from" things for you, or can you just do it at a later date?
I used to pay all my bills in college with money orders. You walk up to the gas station cashier (who can give a rip) and tell them you need a money order for $x, and they bill you $x, plus a small fee (couple dollars at best). They hand you the blank MO and you walk out.
If you loose it, you loose. The other poster is correct about Western Union, but they require more paper work than federal grant.
I had someone pay me recently in WU, and I had to stand around this grocery store for a half hour waiting for this chick to figure all this crap out. I had to fill out forms, etc. It was painful, and I hope it never happens again.
It would be possible to just fedex your money order and insure the document to cover your MO. If the vendor will take this, then you are in theory golden.
If this works and is an advantage, I may try this too.
Yeah, I will definitly let you know.
"Think for a moment about whether it is ethical to throw a living creature into boiling water before sucking it down with a cup of melted butter"
Wouldn't my recommendation here work too? I was thinking of purchasing gift cards with my credit card to cigar shops. Gift cards are just that...gifts. As far as they are concerned, I gave it to a friend in another country as a birthday present. They have no jurisdiction over people from other countries, so try questioning them about the gift card!
I do not know about you guys but I know the name of the people I deal with.So it is person to person not person to company,I also never get asked for I.D. so as far as the guy behind the counter know s my name is Jhon Johnson..
Originally posted by ccsmoker: I do not know about you guys but I know the name of the people I deal with.So it is person to person not person to company,I also never get asked for I.D. so as far as the guy behind the counter know s my name is Jhon Johnson..
Originally posted by ccsmoker: so as far as the guy behind the counter know s my name is Jhon Johnson..
You be Jhon Johnson and I'll be Tubbs, together we'll clean up Miami
******************* "If I had taken my doctor's advice and quit smoking when he advised me to, I wouldn't have lived to go to his funeral." -George burns at age 98
For xmas every year, I get my daughter a one-shot credit card/gift card. I put a couple hundred bucks on it and turn her loose in the mall. It's a regular credit card but you don't have to give any information to get one, just give them money.
If you're concerned about letters, that may be the way to go.
Posts: 205 | Location: New Jersey | Registered: January 14, 2007
Probably should have let this one die...... BUT, remember, money orders that you walk up to the gas station to get are only valid in the US. WA Wa wa wah.....
Posts: 650 | Location: New Orleans, LA | Registered: July 01, 2002
I noticed the other day that only international MO are good. Anyone ever purchased an international MO? I like the pre-paid credit/debit card idea too.
Posts: 613 | Location: Alabama | Registered: November 09, 2006
I cannot believe how paranoid some people, who post of this forum are, about their precious sources, payment methods, locations in areas of the world of suppliers, customer lists, red flags and this and that, ad infinitum! Ad nauseum!
Order your CC's anyway you want and from whom you want and above all, decease & desist from letting Government, or whoever, intimidate you. I've read, " Dealing (or whatever) with the enemy." so many times, from the schmeksperts here, that it is getting to be " old hat."
It makes me wonder just who here really have stashes of CC's, how did they obtain them, and do they feel the slightest bit guilty?
Enjoy life and don't get so damned technical about things. Guys, life is VERY short.
Originally posted by N320AW: I cannot believe how paranoid some people, who post of this forum are, about their precious sources, payment methods, locations in areas of the world of suppliers, and this and that, ad infinitum! Ad nauseum!
Order your CC's anyway you want and from whom you want and above all, decease & desist from letting Government, or whoever, intimidate you. I've read, " Dealing (or whatever) with the enemy." so many times, from the schmeksperts here, that it is getting to be " old hat."
It makes me wonder just who here really have stashes of CC's, how did they obtain them, and do they feel the slightest bit guilty?
Enjoy life and don't get so damned technical about things. Guys, life is VERY short.
This thread was on the way out, but I must say I agree with you. If the government wanted to get everyone, they could. The point of the post was surely not to find a fool proof method, it was simply to discuss if a method would work better. Think about it, if you were trying to fix your car, wouldn't you want to find the best method. I could care less about the "safest method", I've never ordered CC's.
"Think for a moment about whether it is ethical to throw a living creature into boiling water before sucking it down with a cup of melted butter"
