Hey Everybody! I was on the internet and came across a thread on a cigar forum website that somebody was talking about a Toboada Custom Rolled Salamone. It was in the Habanos section and his description of the cigar made it seem like it was a good cigar. Just curious if anybody knew anything of this Toboada cigar guy and if these cigars are readily available.

Thanks a Bunch!
Eddie

"If a body catch a body coming through the rye" - Holden Caufield

[This message was edited by InfrnalSky on September 11, 2004 at 02:21 PM.]

It is the name of a roller. Lots of these internet sites pull this crap, and it's not very nice. They use these people's names to promote sales of cigars, but they forget to ask permission to do so, or at the very least even bother to TELL them that they're doing it. I don't know what the deal is with your vendor, but others get the cigars for $5 a piece, and turn around and sell them for upwards of $35. Sure, they like the publicity in a roundabout way, but in the end, it hurts them...and us!! It hurts them because Habanos is not blind to this, and over the past year as these names kept popping up on the internet, the government has not taken kindly to this side business where the rollers are making the money and the stores are not as people buy that stuff instead of the boxes from the factories. So, the State has placed limits on what these rollers may legally produce for samples, etc. Supposedly, they are not allowed to make anything larger than a julieta (churchill) to sell...so, no DC, no salomones, no diademas. Also, that trickled down to tourism. Before, you could bring out 50 cigars without documentation...now, only 23!! All because of the greed of the internet vendors who plaster the names of these rollers all over the place. It did not escape the eyes of the State.

He's a great roller. But the quality of the cigar will depend also largely upon the quality of the materials he uses. Plus, many times, although people say a salomone they have (without any band or other identifying feature) is from this or that roller, when in fact it isn't. So...gotta be careful!!

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Toboada is a custom torcedor at the La Corona factory.
If you want any of his cigars you better get down to Cuba soon as the word is that he is retiring this fall.
The great thing about the factory custom rollers is that they get to pick the best of the leaves available that day to roll their cigars.

Non illegitimus carborundum

Thanks kechke. I am not asking for sources, but are these available available anywhere outside of Cuba (in general, not anywhere specific)? I searched for them, but have not been able to come up with any hits.

Eddie

"If a body catch a body coming through the rye" - Holden Caufield

Taboada is already retired. His last gig was doing a month-long custom rolling stint in TJ at the LCDH, which has some of his cigars for sale.

They are probably the most beautiful cigars I have ever seen, and they smoke like no other...for that reason, they are quite pricey.

Hotboy

Thanks Hotboy, what do you think one would expect to pay for those beauties?

Eddie

"If a body catch a body coming through the rye" - Holden Caufield

He is still rolling in Cuba and his custom rolls are available there.

LCDH in TJ still has some stock.

Prices range on the still prices are form $15 a stick to $40 a stick for the Churchill "Dom Perignon" Blend. That is another subject.


Seg..

DP Blend, yeah you are right that is another subject, LMAO. His version of the story from others while he was in from Mexico was quiet different than what he explained to me when about the cigar when i was recently in Cuba, Talking with him and other rollers about old blends of cigars that no longer exist LOL. PS DP, LOL, not that they aren't good cigars or rolled great. tobacco types are completly different than it was in the 80's. Even the books out on Cuban Tobacco talk of the change of Tobacco types grown, because of blue mold and other diseases.

The Eternal Marxist

This talk about blends and specially produced stuff to replicate them is a load of hogwash. But if you want to believe what they tell you you want to hear, then you will find what it is you are looking for, and no one has any standing to say any differently.

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InfrnalSky, Since NO ONE else will say this: NO POSTING OF SOURCES!!!!!

Or did the rules change?

HCF

To clarify. I KNOW its a BB. However the home page (which YOU posted) has sources listed. So IMO its the same thing as posting a scorce......PLUS.......its the addy of another forum! Also NOT allowed!

Unless, of course the rules have changed as much as this board.

HCF

I don't recall mentioning another forum as being taboo. Sure, its poor form to knock this one down and then point others to a new forum.

As far as that other homepage directing people to a source, there are several that do that. Cigar Weekly for example. I know in the past when people come looking for a source I've told them we don't discuss those here, but you can go to such and such a site that will.

Is this a major foul with the moderators or the membership? I don't see why. It gets the source discussion out of here and helps someone new to our hobby.

Again, I only direct them to a site that advertises sources for Cuban cigars. This is completely different from sharing a private source. In this way, the newbie might get his start into habanos, while maintaining the integrety of a trusted source.

Good to see you back over here Hawaii.

number 9 ... number 9 ... number 9 ... number 9 ...

Beatles, 1968

Apparently you can mention Weekly or Family but not W*se. Moderators here seem to have a particular prejudice against that site for some reason. There was actually a very informative interview with an official from Habanos S.A. posted on the forbidden site for which a link was posted here (I forget by who). It was deleted. Too bad...doing so deprived the readers here of some great info straight from Havana.

"...and when the turtle dies, I'll have to bury it."

I apologize if everybody thought I had posted a source. I did not think I was doing any harm because if you go to that forums page, people do not care for others asking for sources as well. I shall edit my earlier post so I don't offend anybody. Please excuse this error.

Eddie

"If a body catch a body coming through the rye" - Holden Caufield