As I'm enjoying my MC2 I realize it doesn't make quite the kick of an MC5. Partagas Shorts usually pack more of a punch than the PSD4's. SCDLH are much more potent than their larger siblings. Boli CJ's have more flavor per puff than a Boli CG.

How do they make such little cigars with such big flavor?

do you find that you smoke the same with smaller guage cigars? Do you puff at the same rate? Perhaps the smaller barrel fits your mouth better and you get a better pull and thus more smoke delivered to your tongue.

The cigars you spoke of, Party shorts, MC5's (or 4's for that mattter) have always been great in teh flavour dept in my mind over the years.

But Idon't find the larger guage cigars of the same brand line, weak by any means. Just different. I mean an experienced palate can taste the lineage in the MC line (my exception is the Edmundo and the Mill. robusto...I found both to be just a bit diff.).

I agree and I often prefer the 42-44 crowd.

I know they vary the blend simply because if they made a BCG with the same blend as the BPC - most people couldn't handle it and would get sick. It is a theory I'd be willing to put to the test. . .

I also agree but prefer 42-46 ring gauge. Except for the occasional Lusi.

I agree with everyone here. I have been smoking a few more smaller ring gauge cigars these days (esp. Party Shorts) and have found the smaller ring gauge sticks really tend to focus the flavor right on your palate. I also always smoke a smaller ring gauge when I am trying a cigar for the first time (eg - first VSG was a Tres Mystique). But on the converse, I have also heard arguments that smaller cigars do some marcas a disservice because they do not give the cigar's flavors the full time to bloom. To eat their own. And besides, little cigars are perfect when it's cold outside:-P

I don't know about "more" flavor in the smaller ring gauges. But I would say that the flavors are "more concentrated" in smaller cigars.

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Originally posted by The Peacemaker:
I don't know about "more" flavor in the smaller ring gauges. But I would say that the flavors are "more concentrated" in smaller cigars.

Probably a better way to describe it.

If an Edmundo tasted the same as a Monte #5, I would never buy any other cigar.

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Originally posted by The Peacemaker:
I don't know about "more" flavor in the smaller ring gauges. But I would say that the flavors are "more concentrated" in smaller cigars.

BING, we have a winner!

churchills/pyramids/robustos are for people that smoke a cigar fast and suit new cigar smokers for this reason.

38 to 42 ring cigars are better for people that have learned to slllooowww down...when you slow your cigar smoking down you detect more subtle flavours...same cigar more flavourful mmmmmmmm.

of course we all know somebody that has been smoking cigars for 20 years and still prefers churchill/robusto/pyramid/double coronas...but imo most cigar smokers go thinner as they become more experienced.ever noticed the "connoisseur"sized cigars are smaller ring smokes???

derrek

My favorite sized cigar has always been the Lonsdale, followed by the grand panatelas. The thinner ring gauges provide much more wrapper flavor which in turn gives the cigars a more intense flavor along with much more nose.

At one time my rotation was 90 percent 42 ring gauge and thinner. In the last few years my rotation has included many more 46 ring gauged cigars because of the poor construction coming out of Cuba. I have found the corona gordas are much more consistent compared to the Lonsdale’s.

Now that Cuba has identified and addressed its construction problems, I have gone back to ordering more Lonsdale’s and thinner ring gauged cigars. I recently picked up 6 boxes of 03 Partagas Serie Du Connoisseur 1's (36 ring) because the construction has been perfect on them.

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churchills/pyramids/robustos are for people that smoke a cigar fast and suit new cigar smokers for this reason.

38 to 42 ring cigars are better for people that have learned to slllooowww down...when you slow your cigar smoking down you detect more subtle flavours...same cigar more flavourful mmmmmmmm.

of course we all know somebody that has been smoking cigars for 20 years and still prefers churchill/robusto/pyramid/double coronas...but imo most cigar smokers go thinner as they become more experienced.ever noticed the "connoisseur"sized cigars are smaller ring smokes???

I disagree, I know plenty of Havana aficonados who prefer rings anywhere from 46 - 52+, salomones and the like, some of us who have been smoking cigars for 15+ years don't care for the "slenderellas", myself included. I smoke cigars fast because that's my natural pace. I assure you, subtle flavors DON'T go undetected.

With experience and time comes the ability to detect subtle nuances and the elegance of Habanos. Assuming you are not burning too hot, ring guage or smoking speed has nothing to do with it.

I am not sure about making a claim about the veteran cigar smokers prefering smaller ring guage cigars. I am not terribly sure on the long history of the guages of cigars...but did not the thicker cigars come along later in the history? If I am correct in this perhaps we are all tempered by the memories recalled from movies, advertisements, etc from days long past?

I don't really remember seeing a B&W classic with a character smoking a DC. There are a few detectives and gangsters that I remember with a robusto but usually smaller figurados much like the Cuaba.....

Just some thoughts....

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. The thinner ring gauges provide much more wrapper flavor which in turn gives the cigars a more intense flavor along with much more nose.

I think the master has answered it perfectly. I belong to the camp that finds a lot of the flavor in a cigar comes from the wrapper not the filler / binder. therefore in thinner ring gauges the wrapper accounts for a large percentage of the taste and flavor.

If you ask people in the know in Cuba they all say the perfect cigar( i.e blending,smoking properties, wrapper to filler ratios) is the corona. That would be followed by the lonsdale.

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Originally posted by The Master:
If you ask people in the know in Cuba they all say the perfect cigar( i.e blending,smoking properties, wrapper to filler ratios) is the corona. That would be followed by the lonsdale.

That is silly

more flavor? i can't agree with that, more punch? possibly. I would imagine some of the smaller smokes might have a higher percentage of ligero in them to make them interesting. for instance a MC5 might have more kick, but i couldn't see how its more flavorful than the 2. the refinement and finesse in the 2 compared to the 5 is leaps and bounds ahead.

but i will say the last box of monte 4s i got (late 05) are the strongest monte 4s i've even gotten. great cigar.

i do love those Party Shorts though...its about that time of year to fire in a 50 cab order to get me through the winter. if i smoke a DC outside, i'll freeze to death!!

newbie39, who exactly have you spoken with in the cigar industry? It is a well known fact that the quintisential sized cigar is the corona.

This is a good post!
What exactly do u mean with quintisential?

Ideal.