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Come on guys there was no broken supply chain.Canada has long been known for its Counterfeit Cuban Cigars.Just as Mexico has this Trevor is just getting rich screwing people over plain and simple.Remember this web site http://www.justfakes.com/ right out of Canada probably supplies Trevor with all his supplies.Sort of like the staples store for counterfeiters.
LMFAO.
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This is a very depressing book. Basically paints a rather bleak picture of world commerce.

But it also shows what Trevor and his gang were probably up to as well, and other cigar retailers in Canada.

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Man now I know how Roberto Saviano felt after he wrote Gomorrah, which by the way I just started reading.


Great book your going to love it.The book is about the Camorra some of the most vicious gangsters of all time.These guys are into everything.There empire stretches from Naples to the tip of the boot.Mr Saviano lives in hiding under constant police protection.A contract on his life for writing the book.My grandfather my fathers father was head of the special detachment of Parlimentry police that hunt the Camorra where ever it lives.They also are assigned to protect Mr Saviano.


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This is a very depressing book. Basically paints a rather bleak picture of world commerce.

But it also shows what Trevor and his gang were probably up to as well, and other cigar retailers in Canada. Quote

I had posted about organized crime in Italy back in August.I just found the post about the problems with organized crime in the region of Italy i am from.We mostly pay it no mind it is sort of like growing up across the street from a train station after a while you don't even notice the train pulling in.



http://forums.cigaraficionado.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/47...=235100354#235100354


"Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God"
-Thomas Jefferson

"The tree of freedom must be nurtured from time to time with the blood of its patriots"
-Thomas Jefferson

"When the Government Fears the People, There is Liberty; When the People Fear the Government, There is Tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson
 
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Anyone willing to send me a Sublime that Trevor sent him? I smoke with a large group of guys in Vancouver and I'd like to go over it with them. Send me an e-mail if you are up to it.

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Chin,

I would not waste your time. But, I am sure that VC has plenty more where that came from and you could just go over to their little B&M and grab a few Sublimes for a great price. Maybe even a box.

Apparently they have almost unlimited stock for a great price. Buy a handful, what the ell, buy a box.

Be sure to take a printout of my Sublime Test so you can identify the fake Sublime.

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Anyone willing to send me a Sublime that Trevor sent him? I smoke with a large group of guys in Vancouver and I'd like to go over it with them. Send me an e-mail if you are up to it.

cigar_at_telus_dot_net

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(whisper) Chin, don't tell Steve I told you this, but the right answer to the test is "C".


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(whisper) Chin, don't tell Steve I told you this, but the right answer to the test is "C".


ROTFLMFAO!


"Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God"
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"The tree of freedom must be nurtured from time to time with the blood of its patriots"
-Thomas Jefferson

"When the Government Fears the People, There is Liberty; When the People Fear the Government, There is Tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson
 
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Sheep,
They might have got away with this scam if they used justfakes.com..... the fact was the bands they used were waaay worse than anything sold on justfakes.
 
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The fact that Havana House is owned by Pacific Cigar, could mean the switch might even have occurred in China for all we know.


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Sheep,
They might have got away with this scam if they used justfakes.com..... the fact was the bands they used were waaay worse than anything sold on justfakes.


This is very true indeed they used poor materials in there attempt to fool the unsuspecting buyer.


"Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God"
-Thomas Jefferson

"The tree of freedom must be nurtured from time to time with the blood of its patriots"
-Thomas Jefferson

"When the Government Fears the People, There is Liberty; When the People Fear the Government, There is Tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson
 
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It does not matter where the switch took place. Even if a customer stole all the real Sublimes and replaced them with fakes while Trevor was on a cigarette break in the back alley.

What matters is the last people to handle the Sublimes were Trevor, Roger and the master roller, and they all agreed they were 100% real. This matter is closed, bla, bla, bla.

Clearly each person who received a cigar (5 in total), were so shocked at the obvious fake job in their hand, that they could not believe VC would try to sell such crap, let alone send 4 or 5 of these cigars out for people to validate. Trevor and Roger may as well have packed up some dog poop, dropped a cigar band on the stinking mess and sent that out.

News flash for VC, Trevor and Roger: There is this thing called the Internet, you may have heard of it. It tends to empower people (consumers) in social communities, as they can quickly collaborate and validate news, products, and dog rockets.

Then when the consumer feels they are getting ripped off, this nasty information has a habit of winding up on every social forum, blog site, wiki site, etc, until the whole freaking planet knows your are a fraud. It's called viral marketing.

Roger and Trevor should try selling their Sublimes on Mars. Last I checked, Mars does not have a World Wide Web, or intelligent life.


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The fact that Havana House is owned by Pacific Cigar, could mean the switch might even have occurred in China for all we know.


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News flash for VC, Trevor and Roger: There is this thing called the Internet, you may have heard of it. It tends to empower people (consumers) in social communities, as they can quickly collaborate and validate news, products, and dog rockets.


Cool Wink Big Grin Razz Eek


"Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God"
-Thomas Jefferson

"The tree of freedom must be nurtured from time to time with the blood of its patriots"
-Thomas Jefferson

"When the Government Fears the People, There is Liberty; When the People Fear the Government, There is Tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson
 
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I found still another page to help educate Trevor in his quest for a real Sublime.
http://www.vitolas.net/displayimage.php?album=19&pos=13


"Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God"
-Thomas Jefferson

"The tree of freedom must be nurtured from time to time with the blood of its patriots"
-Thomas Jefferson

"When the Government Fears the People, There is Liberty; When the People Fear the Government, There is Tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson
 
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I am sure Trevor appreciates all this help, and he will look back fondly at this Sublime episode in a few years with a hearty laugh as he smokes a Sublime EL 2006 with Michael, and comments; "boy did I ever lean a lesson with those fake Sublimes."


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I am sure Trevor appreciates all this help, and he will look back fondly at this Sublime episode in a few years with a hearty laugh as he smokes a Sublime EL 2006 with Michael, and comments; "boy did I ever lean a lesson with those fake Sublimes."


I almost missed it at first. Big Grin

I have another suggestion for Trevor, if in fact he is still reading this:

Trevor, I believe that it would benefit you greatly to join forces with Belicoso_Fino, affectionately known on this forum as "BS". You two would certainly do well to form a partnership and combine your businesses under a common website. With your superior product, and his uncanny ability to warm the hearts of others and attract an ever-expanding customer base, you would be unstoppable together.

Please let me know if you would like his contact information.


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Now I have tried to steer clear of all this bashing of Senor Trevor Wallace, but finding this was just too good to pass up: Trevor is an educator too.


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Trevaor is such a wanker, and he does not even know it. This article makes me laugh.


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Hey Steve, your comment got deleted by the author, please enlighten us with what you have said!

LOL, The Three Laws of Buying Habanos.

PS, it better be over $500!! ROTFL....
 
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"Packs of 25" "over $500", spoken by a true aficianado Roll Eyes
 
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Everybody should just carpet bomb his article.


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