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Please post a picture(s)...

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You should be fine.
I also have a Monte pack my girlfriend purchased in Spain. It all looks the same.

That's absolutely fine and legit (the box I mean.) I have many like that, in fact I'm struggling to picture the black line you're talking about.

P.S. Mentioning vendors (even in this way) is frowned upon by many here.

hey Jeffy that is a pretty bold hint. I am afraid some on here might frown. Just my opinion I am not trying to be picky but you might want to take that hint from your post. I dont think we need the hint if you know what I mean.

Boxes I bought this year don't have any black lines boarding the gold bands.

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Originally posted by justawalker55:
hey Jeffy that is a pretty bold hint. I am afraid some on here might frown. Just my opinion I am not trying to be picky but you might want to take that hint from your post. I dont think we need the hint if you know what I mean.

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Don't let peacemaker read this. He'll murder you.

ALL sources are reputable otherwise people would not buy from them...or so those who do say and think. Fact is...you don't buy singles or 3 or 5 packs because anything goes. How reputable?? If you need to come on here and ask, then consider that the source is NOT reputable. Sorry...but it's a sad truth. Especially when it comes to Cohiba.

Believe it...or not...!

Just smoke one and you will know. Let us know what you think of this great cigar.

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Originally posted by JeffyCigar:
Not all sources are reputable that people buy from.... BELIEVE It or NOT... Some are just looking for a good deal... Besides I bet alot of people just want cubans dont look up there source and just buy..... Making it unclear if the site is reputable.. making it not true that people ONLY buy from reputable sites.

Also I diddent come here looking to verify my "reputable" source... I asked for advice about a box.....

Also check the inside of the tube.
The legitimate cap uses 16-panel closure at the top while a counterfeit specimen uses 8-panel. The authentic specimen uses 8-panel at the base of the tube while a counterfeit specimen uses a cap-piece.It looks like wedges cut out of a pie.But the real proof is in the Cigar itself. If you smoke it and it is suspect then the cap is wrong two wrongs equal counterfeit. Also i have never seen a variation of the tube on an authentic cigar.

Quite simply stated the top should have twice as many wedges as the bottom. If i am understanding you correctly. You are saying the top and bottom are the same and that is a NO-No.
You are welcome glad i could help.

Guy wants help...but then misses the point...

Pretty much everyone is convinced that their source is reputable...otherwise, they wouldn't put stock in them and buy from them. And if you're looking for bargains...SORRY! There ain't no such animal. Prices are standard, and only go up from the base-line.

And don't put much stock in packaging either...especially tubes. Labels, rings, stickers, tubes can and are often pilfered, so the packaging can still be (and often times IS...) perfect. Problem is, the black market is so widespread that everyone is a victim, even the store owners in various places.

Buyer beware. No matter how reliable your source, if it's not a casa del habanos, and you have not seen a LOT of cigars, both authentic and counterfeit side by side, you are at the mercy of vendors who will tell you whatever it is you want to hear. If you happen to be in the US, sorry to say, but 99% or more of the supposedly Cuban cigars that make it here are counterfeits...gifts from people on Caribbean cruises, mail orders, and so on.

Packaging alone doesn't mean squat...8 or 16 panels...not all the tubes are manufactured at the same place with the same technique. Whether one or a variety of samples had tubes manufactured like this or that is really only one of the threshold inquiries...and is NOT by any means absolute. The question would then be, is there a legit tube that has the 8 panel construction. Given the differences in production for packaging that can be from factory to factory, or even within the same factory, depending on the production crew, that a tube has an 8 panel construction only BEGINS the inquiry...it far from settles things.

In the end, proof is in the cigar. Problem is, when so many of us are smoking counterfeits that we are certain are authentic, it's hard to be a judge of that.

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Buyer beware. No matter how reliable your source, if it's not a casa del habanos, and you have not seen a LOT of cigars, both authentic and counterfeit side by side, you are at the mercy of vendors who will tell you whatever it is you want to hear. If you happen to be in the US, sorry to say, but 99% or more of the supposedly Cuban cigars that make it here are counterfeits...gifts from people on Caribbean cruises, mail orders, and so on.

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Sheepshead Bay, Could you please provide your reference to the Authenticy of the Tubos manufacturering? For someone that posts a lot in a year, I would be happy to learn something new.

The Siglo VI's Tubos that I have all have 8-Panel, which were sourced from different locations in Europe LCDH's and from the Far East Authorized Habanos Distributors. I trust where I purchased my cigars from. I just want to know where your tid-bit of knowledge derrived from

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Originally posted by JeffyCigar:
It smokes fine...
Thanks for your help so far.

Jeffy,

If it smokes fine, then why are you saying that it's counterfeit? It seems like you have a packaging question, not an authenticity question. I don't care if you stop shopping at the source (leaves more for the rest of us), but you certainly shouldn't defame them when you yourself don't have the right knowledge to make a determination one way or the other. You didn't get ripped off, so enjoy. Otherwise, send them to me and I'll be happy to get rid of them for you!

HC7,

Might be good for you to edit your quote on the previous page so that there's no indication of who the OP's vendor is.

This all casts someone in a bad light who is beyond reproach, IMO. I would expect to find fakes at a LCDH before I found them in his inventory.

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