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Hi gentleman, I am an avid cigar smoker and so is my son. we enjoy mostly NC and CC when on vacation. I however was going to buy him a box of boli RC a/t 10 box for christmas but I'm very skeptical on the sources I've been given.
A B&M tobacconist that has taken good care of me for years and has been in business for 3 decades is a big CC smoker. Never walk into his store without seeing one in his mouth. However he gave me the name of an online source that I checked out and found to have a bad rep for fakes. The funny thing is he has been ordering from them for many years so interested I go back and ask him what he ordered laity and he said " I just got a box of 46 MAG in yesterday I've got them in my office airing out because they always come over humidified" ?? over humidified? I asked and he said " ya they are soft and to humid to smoke". So I asked him If I could try one because I have never smoked a 46 MAG. He gave me 2 and when I got home upon inspecting it I found it was soft but didn't feel to humid , I lit one and it tasted real spicy with a little coca in the backdrop, very one dimensional. so after that I decided to cut the other open and this is what it was filled with.......Filler
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binder 2?
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It did not taste good to me at all. I just don't have the heart to tell him that all of those CC's he's been buying from them all these years may be fakes. when I mentioned to him about using the UV light and sec check he cut me off and said " that's just to much trouble I'm not going to do that...I know what they taste like" in a very arrogant manner. So like an idiot, a few days back before this investigating I gave him $175 for a box of monti no2 that he ordered and said it's a contact that he has in the states and that they would be shipped sealed. I was skeptical and told him "that's fine but if the milk turns out to be sour that I wasn't the kind of pussy that was going to drink it". He assured me that if there was something wrong with them that he would quote "make it right" so I thought I would roll the dice since I've done business with him for a long time , but now I'm convinced that I've got a box of fire wood coming in the mail.
 
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It did not taste good to me at all. I just don't have the heart to tell him that all of those CC's he's been buying from them all these years may be fakes. when I mentioned to him about using the UV light and sec check he cut me off and said " that's just to much trouble I'm not going to do that...I know what they taste like" in a very arrogant manner. So like an idiot, a few days back before this investigating I gave him $175 for a box of monti no2 that he ordered and said it's a contact that he has in the states and that they would be shipped sealed. I was skeptical and told him "that's fine but if the milk turns out to be sour that I wasn't the kind of kitty that was going to drink it". He assured me that if there was something wrong with them that he would quote "make it right" so I thought I would roll the dice since I've done business with him for a long time , but now I'm convinced that I've got a box of fire wood coming in the mail.


Anyway If any of you guys have a good source that will intact ship and guaranty deliv please PM/ email me as I don't have much time to get this gift here for my son. (I have been looking at a certain popular Hong Kong dealer that ships intact and dilv grnty) but I don't know if they have been flagged.

Thanks for all your help...
 
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The wrapper doesn't look that bad
 
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Nasty filler. Any pubic hair?


Cor: Steve, you have proven yourself to be a tremendous whack job.
 
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Originally posted by Steve Cohen:
Nasty filler. Any pubic hair?


While the pubes are very tasty, i prefer a pencil shaving filler. #2 only.


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The pubes are fine if you air them out.. dont smoke them wet. I did that once and got real sick... Oh and dont smoke them on an empty stomach yuk.


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Nasty filler. Any pubic hair?


While the pubes are very tasty, i prefer a pencil shaving filler. #2 only.


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Do you have a picture of the band? The Cap?


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Do you have a picture of the band? The Cap?


Not sure that is necessary. Here is what a real Cuban cigar looks like unwrapped: http://s238.photobucket.com/al...Niceconstruction.jpg

What rayn has is a nasty beach dog rocket. A real POS.

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Cor: Steve, you have proven yourself to be a tremendous whack job.
 
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Obviously you have not read the rules of the CA forum. We do NOT reveal sources. And YOU do not ask for them. Sorry to hear about your experience. We have heard many like yours over and over again.
Hang around for a year and get to know the BOTLs here. I am sure by then you will discover what you seek.

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It did not taste good to me at all. I just don't have the heart to tell him that all of those CC's he's been buying from them all these years may be fakes. when I mentioned to him about using the UV light and sec check he cut me off and said " that's just to much trouble I'm not going to do that...I know what they taste like" in a very arrogant manner. So like an idiot, a few days back before this investigating I gave him $175 for a box of monti no2 that he ordered and said it's a contact that he has in the states and that they would be shipped sealed. I was skeptical and told him "that's fine but if the milk turns out to be sour that I wasn't the kind of kitty that was going to drink it". He assured me that if there was something wrong with them that he would quote "make it right" so I thought I would roll the dice since I've done business with him for a long time , but now I'm convinced that I've got a box of fire wood coming in the mail.


Anyway If any of you guys have a good source that will intact ship and guaranty deliv please PM/ email me as I don't have much time to get this gift here for my son. (I have been looking at a certain popular Hong Kong dealer that ships intact and dilv grnty) but I don't know if they have been flagged.

Thanks for all your help...
 
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I read back posts........ many of that people asked to PM this or that about sources. All I have read was to NOT POST sources publicly.

If it's a matter of me not being known then I understand but if someone was up to no good from hello....then what's the difference 200 posts later when they are trusted?

If someone here can save me hundreds and a few months of trouble by PM saying "hay don't go there because they're flagged or try some places in XXXXX country" then that's helpful and much appreciated. I'll take what help I can get.

thanks
 
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Originally posted by ryan17:
I read back posts........ many of that people asked to PM this or that about sources. All I have read was to NOT POST sources publicly.

If it's a matter of me not being known then I understand but if someone was up to no good from hello....then what's the difference 200 posts later when they are trusted?

If someone here can save me hundreds and a few months of trouble by PM saying "hay don't go there because they're flagged or try some places in XXXXX country" then that's helpful and much appreciated. I'll take what help I can get.

thanks


No Cuban cigars for you! Leave! Come back one year! Next!


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Originally posted by Steve Cohen:
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Originally posted by ryan17:
I read back posts........ many of that people asked to PM this or that about sources. All I have read was to NOT POST sources publicly.

If it's a matter of me not being known then I understand but if someone was up to no good from hello....then what's the difference 200 posts later when they are trusted?

If someone here can save me hundreds and a few months of trouble by PM saying "hay don't go there because they're flagged or try some places in XXXXX country" then that's helpful and much appreciated. I'll take what help I can get.

thanks


No Cuban cigars for you! Leave! Come back one year! Next!
 
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Wow, gotta say I'm glad that I never got aquainted with Dick.


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Does it matter? He's one of the more expensive I've seen, fakes or not...

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Does it matter? He's one of the more expensive I've seen, fakes or not...

-- Gary F.


Of course it matters. The question raised was not price, but fakes.
 
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Ok, I'll spot you that one, you're right. The point I was trying to make (in my demented little gnome brain) was that since he's so much more expensive, I wouldn't be buying from him anyway so whether or not they are fake is moot (to me).

I admit, it's kinda twisted logic. If they'd let me drink at work I'd make more sense...

-- Gary F.


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Thanks for the information and excellent pictures - the both of you.

Steve - I can't believe you wasted that beautiful Cuban. It was for a good cause...


"Don't take life so seriously, no matter what you do, you wont make it out alive."
 
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Thanks for the information and excellent pictures - the both of you.

Steve - I can't believe you wasted that beautiful Cuban. It was for a good cause...


Yea, I took one for the team.


Cor: Steve, you have proven yourself to be a tremendous whack job.
 
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wish we were able to discuss sources that we think are or could be "fakes".....i have heard rumors that one well known,swiss sources does...i think that there are some big price differences ,and i for one am not going to buy from the "cheapest"
 
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