Not a bad idea but, due to these being hand made organic products, you can have 2 boxes with the same code & one will be better than the other- not to mention that I often find within the same box some fantastic cigars, mostly good ones & the occaisional dud.
What an oxymoron...vision and the lack thereof and the hypocrisy of a self-professed Americun hero.
Question - if someone is such an ardent conservative, follower of laws, and good soldier, isn't it a bit of hypocrisy not merely to be smoking Cuban cigars, but moreover, to profess an expertise about them so as to be aware of and have experience with different box codes? Wait - don't answer.
Box codes are illusory, and as has been pointed out above, one's luck of the draw will not be the same for someone else even if they really did know what they were talking about. Cigars are boxed according to color matching criteria and one box with one box code might have been rolled by a pool of 4 or 5 rollers, and another box with the same box code might have been rolled by a pool of a different pool of rollers at a different time with different colored capa.
On that basis, discussions about box codes are really meaningless, even if someone is touting cigars from a particular factory - they are rolled with the same materials according to the same mix by rollers employing the same techniques.
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EMA has been very good to me too! But I still think it's the luck of the draw. I have many boxes with the same box code and they all have different color wrappers so I know they'll have different flavors. If I could just walk in and let my eyes do the shopping I'd be very happy, I know em when I see em.
Originally posted by ryj7x47: What an oxymoron...vision and the lack thereof and the hypocrisy of a self-professed Americun hero.
Question - if someone is such an ardent conservative, follower of laws, and good soldier, isn't it a bit of hypocrisy not merely to be smoking Cuban cigars, but moreover, to profess an expertise about them so as to be aware of and have experience with different box codes? Wait - don't answer.
Box codes are illusory, and as has been pointed out above, one's luck of the draw will not be the same for someone else even if they really did know what they were talking about. Cigars are boxed according to color matching criteria and one box with one box code might have been rolled by a pool of 4 or 5 rollers, and another box with the same box code might have been rolled by a pool of a different pool of rollers at a different time with different colored capa.
On that basis, discussions about box codes are really meaningless, even if someone is touting cigars from a particular factory - they are rolled with the same materials according to the same mix by rollers employing the same techniques.
You're right. So there's no need for you to post or even look at the information contained on this thread.
This site used to host a variety of very interesting questions with thoughtful contributors who were not sucked up by and sucked in to the myths and mystery, and those who actually sought useful information that they gleaned from others. It got laborious, that's for sure, but in the end, the exchange had significant substance. Now it's like looking for information about a good investment with the self-professed 'experts' talking about nothing more than how great the offices look over at Shearson Lehman Bros.!
So how do YOU think my Cohiba should taste to me?
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I too find it uncanny how there are mixed reviews with the JL2 yet everyone who has a GAS May 08 has had an excellent experience with beautiful dark cigars.
Small sample size? Only those satisfied posting? Either way, I'll believe the hype until I receive a box of GAS May 08 that suck. I'm enjoying these the most out of everything I'm smoking.
When looking at stacks of boxes in Havana, Varadero, Cay Coco or Santiago stores. We see that a marca and vitola will usually all be one or two codes...rarely three codes. Most of these codes will be very, very recent. Sometimes 2 or 3 year old codes can be found in some off the path store; great to find, sometimes they are great sometimes they are not.
Box codes are put on the box when the box is filled/inspected/shipped or sometimes when the box is reinspected in which case there will be two codes on it.
Albeit box codes on cigar boxes are a little more interesting than the lot codes on baby food, headache pills and cornflakes. A box code can be traced to a factory and the date the box was packed. One can then look up where that factory is and perhaps visit it.
As was mentioned. Cigars are matched by capa colour. That is the colour of the wrapper. Wrapper colour varies within leaf and from leaf to leaf. As for filler. That is the blend given to the rollers. So the person preparing the box has no clue who and with what the cigar was prepared.
From what I have seen is that Americans tend to be much more interested in box codes than Canadians.
I cannot speak for Europeans as I do not surf EU cigar boards.
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nah... in europe we are quite aware of the hit and miss status of CCs and we don't really care about box codes. I have to admit though, that even though too expensive EMS cigars in England are always very good. Never had a bad cigar bought from one of the big London stores.
Box codes mean very little, for a number of reasons explained here. Box codes have been randomized to a point where they signify very little useful information to the consumer aside from the date they were boxed. You might have 3 different boxes of BRC's from 2007 with a POS factory code, one of which is good, one that sucks and one that is a mixture of both and they come from 3 different factories. It isn't helpful to reduce that phenomena to the level of "box codes". Of course I could tell you what I have been smoking recently that is good or bad, but again, that is a matter of taste, and not codes.
It would behoove you to take the advice of your vendor (assuming you have a decent one) as to the quality of the current stocks and how they are smoking. That relationship can go a long way.
Originally posted by D-Mud: nah... in europe we are quite aware of the hit and miss status of CCs and we don't really care about box codes. I have to admit though, that even though too expensive EMS cigars in England are always very good. Never had a bad cigar bought from one of the big London stores.
X2!!! I have found this to be true when in England as well. The cigars are always dark wrapper oily smell and taste delicious. I like you have never had a bad one from the better establishments.
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