FYI, the Wavell Maduro is one of my favorite cigars.
However, I've noticed that some on-line retailers offer either the USA/Miami manufactured OR Dom. Rep. manufactured LGC cigars. Is their any differences in terms of taste or quality between the two?
Also, are the LGC Torpedo #1 varieties identical to the Wavells, in terms of blends and wrappers (I've been told this is so)?
Thanks
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hey Paul, the wavell maduro is one of my favorites as well. I just smoked one a couple of days ago from a box that I purchased over a year ago. It was a wonderful smoke that, to my amazement, seemed almost stronger with over a year of age on it!
Anyways, I was gifted a Miami Double Corona from a very generous guy here. I had smoked the Dominican DCs and enjoyed those very much, but this Miami one wasn't on par with the others. The flavors were very bland. However, I had only smoked one from Miami, so it could have just been a fluke.
As to the torpedo, I have heard that they are very good smokes, however, I have never had one.
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check previous threads, but from what i understand they are the same tobacco, but rolled in different locations (miami vs dr). if i am wrong, flame away
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The Miami LGCs are what put LGC on the map. This was years ago before they started in DC. This is their way of capitalizing on their popularity once. I haven't had one of the new ones but, the original ones were one of my very early favorites. They're why I'll probably always buy LGCs.
The Serie R to me is more full bodied and spicier.
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I bought a bunch of LGC's at the factory in Miami a few years back. Of the 6-8 different sizes and blends I tried, the Wavell Maduro was my hands-down favorite. It's possible that the torps are the same blend, etc., but the ones I had didn't taste the same as the Wavell.
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It's unusual that you would find the miami cigars not up to par. From what I have heard, some online retailers differentiate between the two because the miami factory has a serious following. I hear they are much more stringent on quality control in the miami factory. Not sure how true that is. I read it on here a while back I think.
The series R is much bolder than the regular line. They are a lot stronger and much more flavorful. That is why they only come in large ring guages. At times they can almost be too strong. They really need at least 6 months of additional age once shipped to mellow out IMO whereas the regular line is good from the start.
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I still buy the Miami-made LGC's when possible just for the sake of nostalgia. Maybe it's just my imagination, but they seem "fresher" than the Dominican-made cigars and need a little more box age before smoking.
Speaking of Maimi cigars, does anyone remember the Macabi brand from the mid 1990s? I used to buy a lot of these and they seem to have dropped off the map. Had one the other day, has to be 8 years old at least, and it was a nice medium-bodied Connecticut-wrapped cigar, it reminded me of one of the fuller-bodied Davidoffs. Anyone have any info?
Regular line LGC's are just "OK." The Series R's are the better cigar in both flavor and strength. I would say that the Series R are a good benchmark cigar for strong cigars. They have a fair amount of complexity that lets different flavors come through, but without clubbing you over the head with nicotine brawn.
You won't mistake them for PAM's or Opus, but they give you some of that extra kick without the big ticket. Plus I'm a sucker for anything with 52 ring gauge and up. The Maduro #7's are the best if you can find them, then the Mad #5 and #6's
I won one a box of Wavells in CA's weekly contest before they limited it only to Cigar Insider subscribers. I don't usually buy the regular line, but I end up with them from time to time in samplers, PIF's etc. I treat them as commuter cigars or web surfing cigars. There just isn't enough to hold my interest.
As for the Miami vs. DR thing it's mostly hype. I couldn't tell the difference flavor-wise but my general perception was that the Miami's were a tad better constructed. It's been a while since I've bought any so my opinion might not be that good.
Macabi has about five stores in the greater Miami area, or, they are available from Sosa (same owner) on-line. They also have a store in Downtown Disney at Disneyworld - but you pay up-the-yingyang because of the location.
BTW...the Macabis and Sosa Family selection are all made in the same factory....same cigars, different bands.
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Gotta go with Binder on the LGC Serie R; the #7 (maduro) are the best of the line (IMO), especially with some age. I've been gifted a few El Rico Habano Maddie Torps that were aged and quite good also, if you like stronger cigars...
I've been looking for some different stuff for the NC Humi (the Habanos Humi is finally full) aside from the regular PAM, VSG or Opus X profile (or price, LOL), and thinking about another box of the #7's to age... I'll have to ask Santa!
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