I have only aged a handful for a decent amount of time. When you say aged, how long are we talking about. Sixmonths, a year, 2 years? I find the medium-full to full bodied cigars age the best, because when a cigar ages it mellows and the flavors marry and become more pronounced. Mild and medium cigars mellow to much(IMO) till there like air but that is always not true in some cases. JDN Antanos age very gracefully, when their fresh out of the box the tend to be all power and harsh but with 6 months age they turn into a very flavorfull smoke. Oliva MB, OpusX, Cubita SMS, Onyx Reserve(yes a Onyx, they turn into chocolate candy past a year), and there are quite a few others. I'm currently trying to age some Torano Silver and gold exodus if I dont smoke em all first. I'll let some of the other members name a few. Idesign, PMP, take it away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Aside from PAM's and PAN's, I'm not so sure it's worth aging any NC's. I see it more like letting them sit till the harshness reduces. But I can't say I've noticed any NC's really improving...if anything they get flatter if you age them more than a year.
I've had the same boxes of NC HdMs, camachos, etc for a couple years and they just don't seem to improve with age. Definitely not like some of my 3-5 yr old boxes of Cubans.
My feeling is, a couple months in the humidor is about as good as it gets for most NC's.
closest ive ever gotten to aging an NC was 4 mths. that being said, don't ever age an LFD chisel maduro. They lose the power and most of the little flavor they have. smoke em when you get em and enjoy the spins. the rest i just cant seem to keep around long enough, either i enjoy them too much or not enough and pass them off as moocher cigars when i have something better to smoke.
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Davidoff Millenium Robusto's. They are great with a year + on them. Hopefully the box I have now with be around for 5, so I can see how they do then.
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quote:Originally posted by the_stogemiester: Nc HDM's are medium bodied anyways so there not going to do very well. Try aging a box of JDN antanos, they come out quite nice.
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I won't argue that JdN antanos might be more smokeable with age. But personally, I am not a fan of them.
That's not aging when only the full bodied smokes benefits. JdN's are not full bodied anyways. They might be strong, but they are not full bodied.
Plenty of my medium to milder bodied boxes (upman mag46, partagas shorts, juan lopez, robainas, etc.) have benefitted greatly from a few years in the sleep. The same can not be said for any of my NC brands.
Not sure of the best NC cigars to age but I would have to say that most of my cigars do taste better with some time in the box. Davidoff Mill. Blend, Opus, PAM & PAM, Hemingway even some mild cigars like Carlos Torano seem to get better with time. But then anticipation of smoking that aged cigar might help too.
Hey I have a ?? about aging. My Cuban boxes have dates/codes to tell the age. How do I tell how old my Padron are. The only # on the bottom of the box is with a marker ..#130380. And nothing on my Opus X box but I did buy them back in 99 I think. Seem like most NC you must just remember the purchase date??
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quote:Originally posted by the_stogemiester: Nc HDM's are medium bodied anyways so there not going to do very well. Try aging a box of JDN antanos, they come out quite nice.
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I won't argue that JdN antanos might be more smokeable with age. But personally, I am not a fan of them.
That's not aging when only the full bodied smokes benefits. JdN's are not full bodied anyways. They might be strong, but they are not full bodied.
Plenty of my medium to milder bodied boxes (upman mag46, partagas shorts, juan lopez, robainas, etc.) have benefitted greatly from a few years in the sleep. The same can not be said for any of my NC brands.
I totally agree with you on the cubans but this thread is about NC's, thats what we are discussing. If JDN Antano's arent full bodied then what are they, because I guess I dont know how to rate my cigars. Maybe you can tell me what doesnt or does make a full bodied smoke.
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Well I've tried many of the Antanos and found most of them to be peppery, but light on flavor and a good amount of strength. Somewhat similar to LFD double ligeros...big on strength and light on flavor.
I normally think of full bodied as ok strength, but more emphasis on strentgh in flavor...and in the case of many NC's, not necessarily a flavor I enjoy. Something more like Gran Habano corojos, camachos, and Series R I tend to think of as full bodied.
I know it's a NC thread. I guess what I was more or less saying was that NC's are prob best smoked young and that resting them to get out the harshness is probably all that you want to do. When i think of aging, I tend to think in terms of 3-5 yrs. A year max is probably all i would do for an NC.
I have a box of Rare Corojos, the Davidoff Milleniums and I was going to see how the anacondas do. I guess I just want to get rid of a little harshness that some of the NC's have compared to the cubans. Thanks for your replys... I also have a box of the Aurora 100 Anos Beli's, to me those seem like good agers so we'll see what happens. Thanks again
the cigar that improved the most with age was a box of LGC Churchills. completely different cigars after a year.
Mike
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quote:Originally posted by sobek: Aside from PAM's and PAN's, I'm not so sure it's worth aging any NC's. I see it more like letting them sit till the harshness reduces. But I can't say I've noticed any NC's really improving...if anything they get flatter if you age them more than a year.
I can't say I agree with this. I age my smokes for years on end. A lot of times it's for no reason other than an over abundance of smokes. Up until a few years back, this mostly included NC because I would tend to smoke all of my CC right away. I have a box of CAO Xtreme Lanceros from 2001 that have become practically legendary smokes. Yes, I have found a lot of NC that don't age gracefully, but more often than not with Fuller Bodied smokes, the flavor becomes more pronounced and in some cases, fuller bodied. Medium and fuller bodied staples like VSGs, Anejo, 1926s, AVO Signatures, CAO Milleniums, Maduro Hemingways, Brazilias and even Upman H2000s all seem to age gracefully, or in some cases, supurbly. The best way to start is to just buy some smokes when you aren't smoking much, whether or not you are sick or just slacking off, this gives you kind of the "out of site, out of mind" advantage. And if you have a second humidor, try splitting smokes up into "smokeable" and "untouchable" piles to prevent having to leaf through the ageing smokes to get to the ones you're going to allow yourself to have. Just experiment and have a good time, I've had many more great times doing this than just straight out of the box. Plus, if you're ever board, it makes great entertainment to just sit and stair at all the "resting" smokes!
I just recieved my first cabinet humidor for box's so I'm pretty excited to load it up. SO far I've got a BOx of Brazilia Anacondas, CAO L'anniversaire maduros, Oliva Masters Blend, PSD #2 EL03, and Pardon Londres Maduro. I think I'm on the right track, it's going to be fun!
quote:Originally posted by sobek: Aside from PAM's and PAN's, I'm not so sure it's worth aging any NC's. I see it more like letting them sit till the harshness reduces. But I can't say I've noticed any NC's really improving...if anything they get flatter if you age them more than a year.
I can't say I agree with this. I age my smokes for years on end. A lot of times it's for no reason other than an over abundance of smokes. Up until a few years back, this mostly included NC because I would tend to smoke all of my CC right away. I have a box of CAO Xtreme Lanceros from 2001 that have become practically legendary smokes. Yes, I have found a lot of NC that don't age gracefully, but more often than not with Fuller Bodied smokes, the flavor becomes more pronounced and in some cases, fuller bodied. Medium and fuller bodied staples like VSGs, Anejo, 1926s, AVO Signatures, CAO Milleniums, Maduro Hemingways, Brazilias and even Upman H2000s all seem to age gracefully, or in some cases, supurbly. The best way to start is to just buy some smokes when you aren't smoking much, whether or not you are sick or just slacking off, this gives you kind of the "out of site, out of mind" advantage. And if you have a second humidor, try splitting smokes up into "smokeable" and "untouchable" piles to prevent having to leaf through the ageing smokes to get to the ones you're going to allow yourself to have. Just experiment and have a good time, I've had many more great times doing this than just straight out of the box. Plus, if you're ever board, it makes great entertainment to just sit and stair at all the "resting" smokes!
Thankyou Lstn!
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