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Anyone smoke these and can compare them to the #2's?

I really like the #2 torpedo, it may be just A BIT strong in my taste, but still ranks near the top of my favorite list.

I'm also looking for a weeknight smoke that may not take as long to burn up at the #2's.

Anyone have any thoughts on the #4's?

Thanks
 
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All Dominican Montecristos are intended to be mild smokes; I don't think you'll find the #2 especially strong.

They are very well made, mass-produced cigars that do nothing to merit their high asking prices. You can do much better for less money.
 
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Personally, I don't think the Dominican Monte Cristo is worth the money. If you want to try a non Cuban Monte try the Afrique.
 
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Thanks guys,

Extensioncord, Such as?

Magnum, I have never tried an Afrique, maybe I will run down to my local store and burn one, just for the experience.
 
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Afrique is a strong cigar. Forget it.

As far as very mild cigars go -- and if you think DR Montes might be too strong, then very mild is what you're looking for -- you have many, many options. Here are just a few. Assuming you'd like to stay in the $8-$12 price range, going from very mild to just plain mild...

Macanudo Gold Label
Macanudo Vintage
Ashton Cabinet
Romeo y Julieta Reserve
Davidoff
Diamond Crown
Playboy by Don Diego
Alec Bradley Pryme
Dunhill Signed Range
Cuesta Rey Sungrown
Diamond Crown Maximus
Jose Seijas Signature Series

All of which are widely available.

Now, if you want to spend less -- say, around $5 -- you've got even more options...

Fonseca
Fonseca Vintage
Chateau Real
Carlos Torano Casa Torano
Leon Jimenes
CAO Gold
Don Diego
Romeo y Julieta Reserva Real
Helix
Occidental Reserve
Gispert
VegaFina

Man, the list goes on and on. Try a few, then go back to your tobacconist and tell him which you liked and which you didn't, and then he can suggest more based on your preferences. Don't have a tobacconist? Get one...a good one. Otherwise, you could spend the rest of your life ordering stuff online based on other peoples' suggestions instead of discovering your individual tastes, narrowing them down, and smoking great cigars.

Oh, one last thing...there are different lines of Montecristo. There's one with a plain brown band -- this is primarily sold by online retailers -- and then there's the Montecristo Classic, which has a more ornate band. The Classic has more flavor, relatively speaking, so if you've been smoking this...

http://www.altadisusa.com/cigar/montecristo-ss.asp

then you should move up to this

http://www.altadisusa.com/cigar/montecristo-classic-ss.asp

Or this

http://www.altadisusa.com/cigar/montecristo-platinum-ss.asp

Or maybe this

http://www.altadisusa.com/cigar/montecristo-SerieC.asp

All of which have more flavor as you move up the line.

BUT -- the whole line is basically a mild cigar from a large company whose job it is to please all of the people, all of the time. You'll find that cigars from smaller, boutique producers like, say, La Flor Dominciana have more character and flavor. For instance:

http://www.laflordominicana.com/paginas/Ourcigar/Premiu...ine/premiumline.html


Good luck!
 
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Thank you, I have considered trying a Macanudo for some time now.

Since that is on top of your list I will give those a shot this week.

Thanks again
 
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A very good mild cigar simular to the Monte Cristo is the Gispert line. Half the price of Monte's . When I'm in the mood for something mild and creamy I go with a Gispert.
Also along the same line is the Vega Fina. Again a very mild, creamy and nutty cigar. I find these cigars to be well priced and mild yet full of flavour.
 
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Extensioncord,

I'm surprised you find the Diamond Crowns to be mild. Especially the Maximus. The Diamond Crown for me seemed to always be on the medium level with the Maximus being on the bolder side.

Just goes to show the difference in strengths from one person to the next.

D
 
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Extensioncord,

I'm surprised you find the Diamond Crowns to be mild. Especially the Maximus. The Diamond Crown for me seemed to always be on the medium level with the Maximus being on the bolder side.

Just goes to show the difference in strengths from one person to the next.

D


Definitely, but I tend to separate flavor from strength. To me, they are mutually exclusive. There are plenty of very strong cigars which have little flavor (Litto Gomez Diez comes to mind), and plenty of mild smokes that have loads of flavor but little nicotine kick. It's like cabernet sauvignon vs. vodka: the wine is much richer and more flavorful but has about 1/4 the alcohol content.

The Diamond Crowns, and Jose Seijas for that matter, have loads of flavor but I don't get the sense they are any stronger than, say, a CAO Gold. I think our man could easily handle those after a little bite to eat.

But then again, I smoked a La Flor Double Ligero Lancero, Felipe Power robusto and a Don Pepin Garcia Magnates back-to-back on Sunday so I'm pretty much a degenerate. But at the same time, I smoke on an empty stomach after work every day and so I get a pretty good sense of what's going to bite someone and what's not.
 
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great advice EC. The gispert maduro is mild in strength but has loads of flavor. Everytime I smoke one around someone they will ask a few questions because it smells so good. I always have these on hand and for 40 bucks for a box w/shipping you cannot go wrong or score a better deal IMHO


"Cuban seed tobaccos grown in Nicaragua and Cuba. The wrapper would be from Cuba. The binder leaves would be from Nicaragua. For the ligero tobacco in the filler, he would use two types, one from Esteli and the other from Jalapa in Nicaragua. The other filler components, seco and viso, would come from Cuba, the former from Villa Clara, the latter from Pinar del Rio. That Cigar, he says with pride, would score 100 points."
-Don Pepin Garcia
 
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I get a lot of sh!t from the guys for smoking Gispert, but the natural is a nice, pleasant morning cigar and the maduro is a rich and flavorful midday smoke, and both are well made. Let's face it, a mild cigar is a mild cigar and the formula is the same: CT shade wrapper (or Ecuador CT or whatever variation), Dominican Olor filler, maybe a hit of Nicraguan leaf to spice things up slightly, etc.

I don't find, say, regular Ashtons to offer twice the quality and flavor of Gispert.

However - the VegaFina has replaced the Gispert as my go-to mild CT-shade smoke. More flavor, more richness, better construction.

And both Gispert and VegaFina can do with a little box age because they tend to ship "green" unlike pricier brands like Ashton. But then again, for half (or 1/3rd) the price, it's worth it to sit on them for a year.
 
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Originally posted by Extensioncord:
I get a lot of sh!t from the guys for smoking Gispert, but the natural is a nice, pleasant morning cigar and the maduro is a rich and flavorful midday smoke, and both are well made. Let's face it, a mild cigar is a mild cigar and the formula is the same: CT shade wrapper (or Ecuador CT or whatever variation), Dominican Olor filler, maybe a hit of Nicraguan leaf to spice things up slightly, etc.

I don't find, say, regular Ashtons to offer twice the quality and flavor of Gispert.

However - the VegaFina has replaced the Gispert as my go-to mild CT-shade smoke. More flavor, more richness, better construction.

And both Gispert and VegaFina can do with a little box age because they tend to ship "green" unlike pricier brands like Ashton. But then again, for half (or 1/3rd) the price, it's worth it to sit on them for a year.


I whole heartedly agree with Extensioncord with Vega Fina and Gispert. Mild yet flavorfull. I love to have thse in the morning.
 
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Originally posted by Extensioncord:
I get a lot of sh!t from the guys for smoking Gispert, but the natural is a nice, pleasant morning cigar and the maduro is a rich and flavorful midday smoke, and both are well made. Let's face it, a mild cigar is a mild cigar and the formula is the same: CT shade wrapper (or Ecuador CT or whatever variation), Dominican Olor filler, maybe a hit of Nicraguan leaf to spice things up slightly, etc.

I don't find, say, regular Ashtons to offer twice the quality and flavor of Gispert.

However - the VegaFina has replaced the Gispert as my go-to mild CT-shade smoke. More flavor, more richness, better construction.

And both Gispert and VegaFina can do with a little box age because they tend to ship "green" unlike pricier brands like Ashton. But then again, for half (or 1/3rd) the price, it's worth it to sit on them for a year.


I whole heartedly agree with Extensioncord with Vega Fina and Gispert. Mild yet flavorfull. I love to have thse in the morning.




what gives ? i mentioned Gispert...JK


"Cuban seed tobaccos grown in Nicaragua and Cuba. The wrapper would be from Cuba. The binder leaves would be from Nicaragua. For the ligero tobacco in the filler, he would use two types, one from Esteli and the other from Jalapa in Nicaragua. The other filler components, seco and viso, would come from Cuba, the former from Villa Clara, the latter from Pinar del Rio. That Cigar, he says with pride, would score 100 points."
-Don Pepin Garcia
 
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