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Hey folks. I have enjoyed the Ashton VSG Wizard and Torpedo, but found the Enchantment a little overpowering; has anybody tried the other cigars in this line?

Also, has anybody found a source for, or tried the ESG? I have never even seen one, but would like to try to find some if it's worth it.

Thanks, MH


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Best source for the ESG would be to try a local
B&M and see if one of them has any. Don't be surprised if they tell you it's a one cigar to a customer limit as it is a limited production cigar.

The VSG's are a good smoke, and pretty much everyone that's tried an ESG has been disappointed in taste, construction, and burn. myself included.

Do a search under ESG or Ashton ESG and you'll see some of the talk. In my opinion, not worth the $18 that they are supposed to charge (some vendors are charging way more)

Mike


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Posts: 1487 | Location: Jacksonville, FL | Registered: October 28, 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Always enjoyed VSGs. I've heard mixed reviews for the ESG, especially for the price. I did buy one at Holts when they first came out, but haven't smoke it.


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oops!


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Are the Ashton Cabinets of the same "strength"? Haven't had a chance to do a search of what they're like.
 
Posts: 45 | Location: New York, NY | Registered: October 06, 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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The Cabinets are much milder. The VSGs are full bodied, while the cabs are more light/med bodied IMO. Not a big fan of the cabs.


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Yes, the Cabinets are a completely different smoke, at least to my admittedly less experienced palate.

Actually, I find the VSGs smoother-- and I'm not at all sure that I'm using the term properly; "smoother" is just how I would describe it-- than the Cabinets, which I don't particularly care for.

/MH


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Incognito, ergo sum. --eponymous


"There are four ways in which you can spend money. You can spend your own money on yourself. When you do that, why then you really watch out what you’re doing, and you try to get the most for your money. Then you can spend your own money on somebody else. For example, I buy a birthday present for someone. Well, then I’m not so careful about the content of the present, but I’m very careful about the cost. Then, I can spend somebody else’s money on myself. And if I spend somebody else’s money on myself, then I’m sure going to have a good lunch! Finally, I can spend somebody else’s money on somebody else. And if I spend somebody else’s money on somebody else, I’m not concerned about how much it is, and I’m not concerned about what I get. And that’s government. And that’s close to 40% of our national income.

--Milton Friedman, 2004

"A major source of objection to a free economy is precisely that it ... gives people what they want instead of what a particular group thinks they ought to want. Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself."

(Capitalism and Freedom, 1962)



 
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you can have a smooth smoke that has a full body. It's like what RyJ and I were talking about in another thread. One may seperate flavor and strength.
 
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Since when does a pretty band equal a good cigar? Do you smoke cigars or just look at them? I have smoked the ESG and i was totaly underwhelmed...for the price i'll take a Graycliff thank you very much.
 
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