Just thought this would be an interesting drink topic of discussion. What are the relationships between breweries throughout the world.

For instance, I just learned last week in touring the Coors brewery in Golden, CO. that....

All Molson beer in the U.S. (whether it be Molson GOlden, Canadien, Ice, Import, etc.) is actually brewed in the U.S. by Coors.

The Opposite I was told is also true. All Coors beer that is drunk in the Canadian Provinces is actually made by Molson in Canada..

I believe that all Foster's beer sold in North America is brewed in Canada by Molsen.

I used to know but I forgot.

Beer Lover
NY hater

you're right about Fosters... it's Canadian for beyeah (beer).

Also a lot of "micros" aren't really micros. Red Hook for instance and Blue Moon are manufactured by the big boys. Probably why they taste like @$$.

Is the locale all that important? The recipe of the brew doesn't change, although different water sources might make a difference (or so the Coors people used to tell us about their Rocky Mountain stream...does anybody remember when Mark Harmon did Coors commercials, pre-NCIS, pre-Summer School?)

Anyway, who out there knew that Guinness brews more stout in Jamaica than they do at their St. James Gate headquarters? An Irish rugby player told me that trivia one rainy, drunken evening. "Really? Jamaica?" I asked. "Yep," he says, "The little N*word*s love it!" (I warned him we can't use the N-word as freely in the States as they must back in Dublin.) True story.

that's actually really disappointing to hear about Guinness, but i guess not all that suprising. There really has been an increase in the US market for the dark beer (translation - good).

Jamaica.. d@mn, and i always thought red stripe tastes like fermineted urine.

"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results."

I acn't spell.

"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results."

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Also a lot of "micros" aren't really micros. Red Hook for instance and Blue Moon are manufactured by the big boys.

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These beers are known as "contract brewed". The recipes are original, then brewed by the "big boys", many of them in Utica, NY by FX Matt.

But I can still taste the Coors @SS flavor in them! Ugh.

"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results."

Ahhh... the truth will finally come out. It'll be interesting to see how many of the "popular" micros are really micros after all.

Someone should make a list (not me).

"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results."

Coors owns the importing rights for Molson to the U.S. it does not produce it in the U.S. Much like Bud owns the importing rights for Corona.
Itchy

"Before I sink into the big sleep, I want to hear the scream of a butterfly....."
(The Lizard King)

They brew petes in houston also.

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Originally posted by jsprenkel:

Also a lot of "micros" aren't really micros. Red Hook for instance and Blue Moon are manufactured by the big boys. Probably why they taste like @$$.

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Blue Moon is a Coors product, but Redhook is not contract brewed or brewed by Anhauser-Busch. Plus they are no longer considered a "micro" anyhow, they produce way too many barrels. AB has a minority interest in Redhook but they only helps out with distribution not production. Redhook has two major breweries of their own. One in Woodinville, Washington and another right down the road from me in Newington, NH. Redhook also has a joint venture with Widmer Brothers Brewing Co. Widmer's hefeweizen is brewed here in NH at Redhook's brewery for the eastern part of the country.

Just my 2 cents.

Guinness is actually brewed in 35 different countries, and the overseas brews must contain a flavoured extract brewed at St. James's Gate.

tell us more about this cute girl at the Bev



(My bar keeps running out of Lite, so I have to live vicariously!)

I believe that 'mass-marketed' micro-brews cease to be micro-brews

just me, of course

be cool

dkinbluz

"If I die before I learn to speak, can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?" - Primitive Radio Gods

There is a total hottie in the store i frequent, nice auburn hair, young, sweet, I think I blew anychance (yeah like i ever had one) when i brought her 24 cases of empties, mostly singles.

Beer Lover
NY hater

What ever happened to Utica Club?

Non illegitimus carborundum

to really know where the beer you are drinking is micro or whatever.. just go to your search engine and type the name of the beer. chances are the brewery will have a web site and all the info you want is on there. Big brewery's such as coors may not brew a so called "micro" just own the actual brewery. if you type in labbat you will find about twenty diffrent brews that they own.
james (beer sales)

james

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Originally posted by kechke:
What ever happened to Utica Club?

Non illegitimus carborundum

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They became Saranac Brewery. Matter of fact they contract most of the east coast "micros", a ton of them. Their own beers are great with exception of 1 or 2, and here they are in the local supermarket for $4.99/6 usually. They have a few limitd editions beers, usally at x mas time that totally rock, the Nut Brown Lager, Carmel Porter and Stout kick ash.

A-B's interest in Red hook is why i won't buy it, whichis a shame becasue before the evil empire bought into them the Rye they made was outstanding. Tought to find a good rye too.

Beer Lover
NY hater

Agreed Zdpin.. Grew up in WNY myself and was really surprised when I moved to Richmond, VA that I could get a 6 pack of Saranac Pale Ale for $4.69 at Kroger..... Even Labatt Blue is more that expensive and they are becoming more and more a very heavily marketed, mass-market beer...