Site Map





Cigar Videos
Cigar Insider
Cuba
Moments to Remember
Golf
Back Issues


Online Advertising Info


Go
New
Find
Notify
Tools
Reply
  
-star Rating Rate It!  Login/Join 
Member
Posted
OK, Summer is around the corner and its almost time to smoke butts, ribs and whatever else! I have used a standard gas grill with backburner on low & chips between the Weber flavorbars to make smoke, ribs generally take 3 hours. Thinking about going to a wood fired system. Something not too big but still something that a "Texas Man" would recognize as a BBQ. What do you use/suggest?
 
Posts: 450 | Location: Northern NJ | Registered: August 10, 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Picture of JimC
Posted Hide Post
I'm gonna cry. I jsut bout a townhouse and cannot ahve gas or charcoal. I was hoping to bring my Weber bullet but "the association" says NO. One woman told me I could get an really good electric grill........ poor woman was trying to help but she has no idea.
 
Posts: 275 | Location: Red Sox Nation, USA | Registered: April 14, 2003Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Posted Hide Post
Dude I feel your pain. I hope they don't have any rules about cigars! TIme to rally your neighbors together against the grill ban.
 
Posts: 450 | Location: Northern NJ | Registered: August 10, 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Posted Hide Post
Glad to hear that you like Texas BBQ. I am told that my brisket is excellent. My wife is the queen of ribs, but I am sworn to secrecy as far as her recipe goes. I cook with oak wood.

There are several places on the web that sell BBQ pits, but shipping will be very expensive. Hopefully you have a local retailer. I have bought several different brands. They all will work once you get used to them.

I finally had a friend make a custom pit for me. It is similar to the “Long Horn” (http://www.nbsmoker.com/smokers.html). My next pit will have a firebox, grill, and smoker box.


Two beers or not two beers...
What was the question?
 
Posts: 394 | Location: near Houston, Texas | Registered: May 08, 2002Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Picture of JamesEIII
Posted Hide Post
Bobsled........It all depends on your budget and how many people you would typically serve on a given day. There is no right or wrong way to go with a smoker. They all do the same thing and you just need to adjust to it. The only difference is how much you are willing to spend and how big you want it.....I bought a Char-broil brand smoker from Home Depot for $150 and it has worked great for about three years now. Funny you bring up this topic because I chowed down on some ribs and chicken qtrs I smoked on Sunday. I smoke foods year round in my neck of the woods (suburb of Dallas). I usually fire mine up once a week and put enough food in to have some meals later in the week as well.

Make sure you buy a thermometer. It definately helps especially on briskets that take most of the day to smoke. Mine attaches to the smoker and lets me know the internal temp of the cooking chamber at all times.

Mine is identical to the Black Diamond version in NordaP's link above.....it is not real big but big enough for me. It will hold about 12-15 chicken qtrs with nothing else just to give you an idea of how much food will fit that particular model. The fire chamber also doubles as a grill. It is perfect for throwing on a few steaks or burgers when I am not smoking anything or in additon when the extra food is needed.

As nordaP stated......get one that suits your needs best. They will all perform well once you get used to it..........ahhhhhh, talking about this makes me want to fire mine up again and light up a good stick.

Chime in here Stoge.... Big Grin I know you have some good ideas in this category

Good luck

James

This message has been edited. Last edited by: JamesEIII,
 
Posts: 406 | Location: Mansfield, TX | Registered: February 22, 2003Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Posted Hide Post
I like the look of the NB & Char Broil...James, is yours the 244 square inch model? How many rib racks can you fit?

I like a mix of mesquite, hickory & oak. adds a neato flavor to my ribs.....I do mostly grilling in the winter (rural nj)and reserve BBQ for spring & summer, but this weekend its a couple of baby backs on the agenda, some guinness, and a couple o' stogies. Big Grin
 
Posts: 450 | Location: Northern NJ | Registered: August 10, 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Posted Hide Post
bobsled, we can sit here and debate smokers for about 6 months and never come up with what is the best smoker for you.

I have a horizontal smoker, with a seperate firebox, i like it. one of my cowokers just bought a verticle smoker and loves that. my feeling is to determine what the largest thing that you wish to be able to smoke in it is and then work backwards from there. another important factor to take in to consideration is your space, how much room do you have for this?

example: whole pig, you're gonna need a horizontal smoker with lots of room.

with that said, I really want to build that competition smoker and compete this summer, but I don't think i'll have the time.

Alan


Of all the animals, man is the only one that is cruel. He is the only one that inflicts pain for the pleasure of doing it.
--Mark Twain

B.A.S.E. #0006 <(O)>
 
Posts: 770 | Location: Greater Boston Area | Registered: August 16, 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Posted Hide Post
BTW, JimC, you can still smoke in an electric grill. You can soak your chips and place them in a disposable pie plate on the coil and get the desired effect. I would suggest finding out directly from the "association" what the objection is to gas/charcoal fueled grills.

There is more then 1 way to skin a cat, and as long as you get the desired effect, who cares how you get there. Besides, an electric grill will give you more control over the temp, not that I advocate electric cooking.

Alan


Of all the animals, man is the only one that is cruel. He is the only one that inflicts pain for the pleasure of doing it.
--Mark Twain

B.A.S.E. #0006 <(O)>
 
Posts: 770 | Location: Greater Boston Area | Registered: August 16, 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Picture of JamesEIII
Posted Hide Post
Bobsled......ribs are a little trickier to get several on without using a rib rack. It also depends on if they are back ribs or spare ribs. Back ribs are smaller and if I lay them flat on the grate, I can only fit about 4-6. I have to use the racks if I do more than that in which case I can fit 8 or so.

I do wish I had a bigger one at times but you will find that there is a substancial difference in price the bigger you go.

If you have not done so, click on nordaP's link above. My smoker is identical to the Black Diamond version. Look at the specs on that one. That is a real popular style and I personally know several people who have that one.
 
Posts: 406 | Location: Mansfield, TX | Registered: February 22, 2003Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Posted Hide Post
Here are more links and info than you probably need. http://www.bbqjudge.com/webpages/bbqjc_pitbuilders.htm

Bigger pits require more wood, but give you plenty of space for cooking. The larger pits that I have seen are typically made of thicker steel and tend to maintain heat well, once you get them up to temp.

Smaller pits tend to be “easier” to cook on since you can control the temperature better by using smaller pieces of wood. However, you are limited on cooking space.

As was mentioned earlier, you should definitely make sure that you have an accurate temperature gauge.

You get what you pay for, but a “cheaper” pit will cook just as well as a more expensive one. I have found that the only real difference is how long they last here along the Texas coast. Rust is a real problem here.

My neighbors always seem to find their way into my backyard when I am cooking. So I would recommend buying a pit larger than what you think you need. It won’t go to waste.


Two beers or not two beers...
What was the question?
 
Posts: 394 | Location: near Houston, Texas | Registered: May 08, 2002Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Picture of Raven35031
Posted Hide Post
The best BBQ I have ever had was from a friend who uses hickory wood only and does not use any chemicals to light it.


***********************
"He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion."
- Anonymous
 
Posts: 3835 | Location: Blountsville, Alabama | Registered: August 09, 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Posted Hide Post
Raven, i use only natural wood charcoal for the base heat and small logs, splits and chunks to provide the smoke. no chemical has ever touched my pit, nor will it ever. It scares me that people would do that.

Alan


Of all the animals, man is the only one that is cruel. He is the only one that inflicts pain for the pleasure of doing it.
--Mark Twain

B.A.S.E. #0006 <(O)>
 
Posts: 770 | Location: Greater Boston Area | Registered: August 16, 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Posted Hide Post
Home Depot sells the Santa Fe grill:
http://www.charbroil.com/grills/charcoal.asp

And the Silver Smoker:
http://www.charbroil.com/grills/charcoal.asp

I have the Silver Smoker and I am very pleased with it.


S.N.O.B #1015
"When you see a rattlesnake poised to strike, you do not wait until he has struck before you crush him."
FDR, September 11, 1941
 
Posts: 881 | Location: San Diego, Ca. | Registered: August 12, 2003Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Picture of talto
Posted Hide Post
all this talk of bbq makes me want to go buy a smoker and start cultivating some skills, I was in Alabama once for business and ate at this bbq restaurant and had this sampler. Well being from PA and never really having been from the south, I thought I knew what to expect. This food was absolutely amazing, I thought I was going to explode after walking out of that place.


.......................................................
"Michael thinks the tango is hysterical..
well I think Michael is hysterical"

http://www.kevinmontalto.com

"a ceiling fan stirs the air and cigar smoke aswirl..."
 
Posts: 304 | Location: Lansdowne, PA | Registered: October 02, 2003Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Picture of JamesEIII
Posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by Curt:
Home Depot sells the Santa Fe grill:
http://www.charbroil.com/grills/charcoal.asp

And the Silver Smoker:
http://www.charbroil.com/grills/charcoal.asp

I have the Silver Smoker and I am very pleased with it.


I will 2nd and 3rd the silver smoker Curt. I have one as does my brother in law and we pulled a dual last saturday....our backyards backup to each other and we had them both going......i can tell you that I have fired mine up once a week (year round) for the last 3 years and it works wonderfully!!!!!!!!!
 
Posts: 406 | Location: Mansfield, TX | Registered: February 22, 2003Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Picture of talto
Posted Hide Post
this is a good thread, i'm probably going to pick one of these up, now i just need some good ol recipies to begin learning

quote:
Originally posted by JamesEIII:
quote:
Originally posted by Curt:
Home Depot sells the Santa Fe grill:
http://www.charbroil.com/grills/charcoal.asp

And the Silver Smoker:
http://www.charbroil.com/grills/charcoal.asp

I have the Silver Smoker and I am very pleased with it.


I will 2nd and 3rd the silver smoker Curt. I have one as does my brother in law and we pulled a dual last saturday....our backyards backup to each other and we had them both going......i can tell you that I have fired mine up once a week (year round) for the last 3 years and it works wonderfully!!!!!!!!!


.......................................................
"Michael thinks the tango is hysterical..
well I think Michael is hysterical"

http://www.kevinmontalto.com

"a ceiling fan stirs the air and cigar smoke aswirl..."
 
Posts: 304 | Location: Lansdowne, PA | Registered: October 02, 2003Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Posted Hide Post
yeah I've been thinkin' bout that silver smoker too. New Humi, some cohiba's, and the smoker, happy birthday, merry christmas, and happy anniversary honey!

So, do ya'all use charcoal and then lots of the lump hickory, mesquite, etc? or do ya do something different for the fire? (Ive been using my Weber Genesis, put the backburner on low, woodchips in between two flavor bars in tin foil, and smoke @ 200, but the smoke runs out real fast and no way to reload). SOOO GOTTA GET the smoker.
 
Posts: 450 | Location: Northern NJ | Registered: August 10, 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Posted Hide Post
I tell ya, I'm just getting into smoking meat, and Sams club has a kick ass smoker...38",304 grade Stainless steel, double wall, electronic ignition W/ variable heat..$598.00 as soon as alan gets back to me with a meeting date for Castros, I'm sure he'll give me some pointers on smokin' a brisket, in exchange for a couple cigars maybe?? Whaddaya say Alan???


The Eye

Why am I in a handbasket, and where am I going????

B.A.S.E. #9999
 
Posts: 169 | Location: Just North O' Boston, Ma. | Registered: November 07, 2003Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Posted Hide Post
Eye, I'll take you up on that. *grin* Check your email.

Alan


Of all the animals, man is the only one that is cruel. He is the only one that inflicts pain for the pleasure of doing it.
--Mark Twain

B.A.S.E. #0006 <(O)>
 
Posts: 770 | Location: Greater Boston Area | Registered: August 16, 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by bobsled:
yeah I've been thinkin' bout that silver smoker too. New Humi, some cohiba's, and the smoker, happy birthday, merry christmas, and happy anniversary honey!

So, do ya'all use charcoal and then lots of the lump hickory, mesquite, etc? or do ya do something different for the fire? (Ive been using my Weber Genesis, put the backburner on low, woodchips in between two flavor bars in tin foil, and smoke @ 200, but the smoke runs out real fast and no way to reload). SOOO GOTTA GET the smoker.


bob, I usually use hardwood charcoal or sometimes Kingsford. You just need to fire the charcoal outside the firebox until it is fully ashed. I use a chimney.

For pork I usually use hickory chunks well soaked in a mix of bourbon and water.

For beef, hickory or mesquite.

Here is a greatBBQ info site.


S.N.O.B #1015
"When you see a rattlesnake poised to strike, you do not wait until he has struck before you crush him."
FDR, September 11, 1941
 
Posts: 881 | Location: San Diego, Ca. | Registered: August 12, 2003Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
 Previous Topic | Next Topic powered by eve community