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I am wondering if there is any grain used in the production of cigars... the only place I might imagine would be in the glue - what is it made of? Is there any grain products used in the curing, rolling, packaging - start to finish.

I am specifically wondering about Cubans (Monte Petit Ed & Bolivar RC's), and also other higher end hand-mades (ex. Padron, Tat etc.).

If you could let me know what ALL the ingredients that go into cigars (except tobacco) from start to fininsh, harvest to package/smoke, I would be very grateful.

Thank you very much in advance.

TH
 
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The only thing in a good cigar should be tobacco. I believe the glue is a fruit pectin, but I can't be positive on that. No grains in cigars...unless you get the special glass-top box of Cohibas. No telling what's in those....


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Editors? Experts? Rollers/Tercedoros? any info would be most appreciated!!
 
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there should be no grain....why are you so worried about grain??? there is tobacco in legit cigars and that's it
 
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If there is, I've never heard of it, nor seen it. Premium, handmade cigars are made from tobacco, water and that's about it. Some guys use a bethune (liquor, herbs and other things) but I've never heard of grain.

The glue used to keep the cap on a cigar is either vegetable based (most common) or a tree sap (more rare), both of which have little or no odor or flavor.

Machine made cigars are a different story. They have lots of ingredients (I know of beer, chocolate and licorice root) and I do not know them all.
 
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Thank you VERY much David (and others). You have been very helpful, as always. Any idea what vegetable is used?

I'll stop now... Smile-
 
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Is it the same glue that is used on the band?
 
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Most use Gum Arabic as the glue for the wrapper, cap and band.

Gum arabic
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Gum arabic, a natural gum also called gum acacia, and chaar gund or char goond (in India), is a substance that is taken from two sub-Saharan species of the acacia tree, Acacia senegal and Acacia seyal. It is used primarily in the food industry as a stabilizer, but has had more varied uses in the past, including viscosity control in inks. Its E number is E414.

Gum arabic is a complex mixture of saccharides and glycoproteins, which gives it its most useful property: it is perfectly edible. Other substances have replaced it in situations where toxicity is not an issue, as the proportions of the various chemicals in gum arabic vary widely and make it unpredictable. Still, it remains an important ingredient in soft drink syrups, "hard" gummy candies like gumdrops, marshmallows, M & M's chocolate candies, and most notably, chewing gums. For artists it is the traditional binder used in watercolor paint, and is used in photography for gum printing. Pharmaceuticals and cosmetics also use the gum, and it is used as a binder in pyrotechnic compositions. It is an important ingredient in shoe polish. It is also used often as a lickable adhesive on postage stamps and cigarette papers. Printers employ it to stop oxidation of aluminium printing plates in the interval between processing of the plate and its use on a printing press.

The substance is grown commercially throughout the Sahel from Senegal and Sudan to Somaliland


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As somebody who is trying to grow his own tobacco, and rolling cigars, I am very interested in finding a place to purchase some of this glue. Any thoughts?


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Any chemical supply house.

Try Fischer Scientific


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Thank you DOc


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