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Been reading all the hype on these, so i decided to try one. I wasn't too impressed either. maybe it's me,been smoking for a few months. read a few post on the red label, maybe i'll try those next time. nothing's come close to PAM 64's... Yet. except the 26's
 
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That's not really much of a review...all you're doing is stating a personal preference.

I drove a Porsche 911 targa last night...wasn't too impressed...nothing comes close to Corvette Z06.

So, what's your point?
 
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That's not really much of a review...all you're doing is stating a personal preference.

I drove a Porsche 911 targa last night...wasn't too impressed...nothing comes close to Corvette Z06.

So, what's your point?


You didn't read between the lines. Wink
 
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The point is, I've read a lot of good things about this cigar and personlly i dont see what the big deal is. I thought the taste was a bit harsh and the draw was hard. I'm new the the cigar world and havent reached the point where I can disiguish flavors. Have you tried this cigar and if so how would you review it, cigar guru Wink you must be an english professor or something, ilike how you graded my paper Big Grin
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Originally posted by Extensioncord:
That's not really much of a review...all you're doing is stating a personal preference.

I drove a Porsche 911 targa last night...wasn't too impressed...nothing comes close to Corvette Z06.

So, what's your point?
 
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I thought the taste was a bit harsh and the draw was hard.


See, now that's almost a review -- which is as it should be when you're posting to a board called "Group Cigar Reviews." The point here is to contribute useful, detailed information. (For example: http://forums.cigaraficionado.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3306086/m/584102023)

But really, I'm just f*cking with you...

As for the "harsh" taste: Tatuaje is a very strong cigar. I would never in a million years call it harsh ("bold" is more dead-on) but that's a word I might have used about 10 years ago. For instance, if you take a kid who's used to beer and order him a scotch straight up, he might be tempted to use words like "harsh" or "burning" but only because he's just not there yet.

On the other hand, Tatuaje is a rather "Cubanesque" cigar and it could just be a style of cigar that you don't enjoy. No sense in forcing yourself to smoke something you don't enjoy just because other people tell you you should like it.

I say, keep smoking and give the brand one more try in a a year or two, and in a thicker format like a robusto. You'll find the draw easier, that I can guarantee you.

Tatuaje is made in small quantities and demand is high, so these typically ship within a few weeks of being rolled. Though the tobaccos are well aged, they do benefit from a few months to a few years of box age before smoking -- not to take away any undue harshness, but to allow for the tobaccos to marry and bring out additional complexities. Just something else to consider.

It's not like you'll be selling yourself short if you keep smoking PAMs for the rest of your life...but either way, you just learned lesson #1 in cigars: don't buy into "hype." Sometimes, it's well founded as with Tatuaje..other times, it's marketing-driven with no basis in reality (i.e., CAO Vision).
 
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Great job EXTENTIONCORD I couldent of said it any better Mad
 
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Thanks for the tutorial. Wink i'll be sure to keep this in mind when trying new cigars. You're the master! Maybe you and Docbarry. I enjoy reading you guys post.
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Originally posted by hammp1:
I thought the taste was a bit harsh and the draw was hard.


See, now that's almost a review -- which is as it should be when you're posting to a board called "Group Cigar Reviews." The point here is to contribute useful, detailed information. (For example: http://forums.cigaraficionado.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3306086/m/584102023)

But really, I'm just f*cking with you...

As for the "harsh" taste: Tatuaje is a very strong cigar. I would never in a million years call it harsh ("bold" is more dead-on) but that's a word I might have used about 10 years ago. For instance, if you take a kid who's used to beer and order him a scotch straight up, he might be tempted to use words like "harsh" or "burning" but only because he's just not there yet.

On the other hand, Tatuaje is a rather "Cubanesque" cigar and it could just be a style of cigar that you don't enjoy. No sense in forcing yourself to smoke something you don't enjoy just because other people tell you you should like it.

I say, keep smoking and give the brand one more try in a a year or two, and in a thicker format like a robusto. You'll find the draw easier, that I can guarantee you.

Tatuaje is made in small quantities and demand is high, so these typically ship within a few weeks of being rolled. Though the tobaccos are well aged, they do benefit from a few months to a few years of box age before smoking -- not to take away any undue harshness, but to allow for the tobaccos to marry and bring out additional complexities. Just something else to consider.

It's not like you'll be selling yourself short if you keep smoking PAMs for the rest of your life...but either way, you just learned lesson #1 in cigars: don't buy into "hype." Sometimes, it's well founded as with Tatuaje..other times, it's marketing-driven with no basis in reality (i.e., CAO Vision).
 
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Oh come on, hamp-- you can't quit now! This thread has such entertainment potential. Razz Give it another shot.
 
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EC - Does the Vision still suck?
 
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I've had this cigar once. It is a good, small last smoke of the night when you want something to to put an exclamation point on the evening. It is very full-flavored, with pepper and a touch of cedar up front, and leather on the finish. It was a dense little stick that burned evenly, drew well, and predictably, gathered near dizzying strength in the final third. I have another I'll try soon and if my conclusions are any different, I'll post them.

I had this with a sweet, aged sipping rum, which was a good change from the woody, leathery flavors of the cigar. I'm not sure I'd like this as well with a less sweet spirit, say a peaty, smoky scotch, though something like Glenmorangie's port wine finish might do fine.

I also have a Tatuaje Tainos, which I understand is just a stick of TNT disguised as tobacco. I'll let you know how that turns out.


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I also have a Tatuaje Tainos, which I understand is just a stick of TNT disguised as tobacco. I'll let you know how that turns out.


Nah. I smoke two or three a week. They're bold but not overpowering. In fact, due to the length and large ring gauge, they're actually fairly mellow for a full-bodied smoke and easy on the palate. You'll be fine.

Now...the Cojonu series of cigars are intentionally very strong. I don't like them.

But if the Taino turns out to be too powerful for your tastes, try the Reserva SW. It's a 7x47 churchill with a lighter, more medium-bodied blend than the regular Tatuaje line. You could alo try Pate Johnson's other brand, Cabiguan, which is mild to medium.
 
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Been reading all the hype on these, so i decided to try one. I wasn't too impressed either. maybe it's me,been smoking for a few months. read a few post on the red label, maybe i'll try those next time. nothing's come close to PAM 64's... Yet. except the 26's


I think if your intent was to compare the two side by side.
Then i understand your disappointment.
Its like comparing an apple to an orange.
Two different animals.
IMHO two great cigars non the less.


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I also have a Tatuaje Tainos, which I understand is just a stick of TNT disguised as tobacco. I'll let you know how that turns out.


Nah. I smoke two or three a week. They're bold but not overpowering. In fact, due to the length and large ring gauge, they're actually fairly mellow for a full-bodied smoke and easy on the palate. You'll be fine.


Thanks for the input. I'll try one this weekend.
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