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I recently had the opportunity to make a trade for a five-pack of pre-embargo Robert Burns Panatelas, a Clear Havana cigar from the late 1950's.

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What's a Clear Havana? Basically, it's a cigar made in the US from Cuban Tobacco.

This particular variety is, so far as I've been able to tell, machine-bunched and hand finished (someone correct me if I'm wrong, please. I haven't had the heart to dissect one...) They came in both cello-wrapped cardboard five-packs and in boxes of 25. Their original price was about fifteen cents each ($1.04, adjusted for inflation since 1958).

My grandfather smoked Burns cigars, along with Roi-Tan and White Owl. Smoking a sample of "his" cigars is as close as I'll ever be able to come to sharing a smoke with him, since he died before I'd had my first cigar. This one's for you, gramps! Smile

After removing the (still intact) cello wrap from the top of the box, I opened it to find five well-preserved smokes, each cello-wrapped with the band on the outside. The cello had turned a rich golden brown with age and the oils from the cigars.

I sent one off to an out-of-town friend, then took two to a regular Thursday get-together with some other BOTLs in Atlanta. I gave one to the man who gave me my first CC, and kept the other for myself.

On opening the wrapper, I found a smoke that had obviously been around for a while. The cigar looked old. It was plain that these had been allowed to dry out at some point in their history. The toothy, light wrapper had a fine dusting of plume, but was a bit wrinkled and shrunken - like the skin on a mummy's arm. Not a good sign, but being the adventurous type that I am, I continued - and I'm glad I did.

The cigar lit easily and burned beautifully. The draw was fine and even, and the smoke was plentiful. The ash was firm and medium-gray, holding to about an inch and a half.

Initially, the taste seemed to confirm my fears about it's preservation - it was thin and dry, very mild, almost tasteless. About an inch into the smoke, though, it seemed to wake up. It smoothed out, and picked up a distinct taste of leather and a hint of cream, with a very clean, short finish. It maintained this profile to the last two inches, when it picked up a note of mint - not sweet, not menthol, but very clean.

I smoked this cigar to the point where my moustache was in serious danger. Big Grin

There are two more in the pack, and I'm looking forward...


So many cigars, so little time...
 
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That 5-pack is in great condition considering it is almost 60 years old. Thanks for sharing.
 
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Great story!
Seriously, that pack looks like it has never seen daylight.
 
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Yep - it looks almost brand-new, with just a touch of yellowing.

I'm seriously tempted to pick up the full box from Gotham. I'm going to give it a month for the novelty to wear off, try another, and if it's as good as the first, I'll get the box.

Of course, there are no guarantees with these, but there's something to be said for being able to own and light up a small piece of history...

Smile


So many cigars, so little time...
 
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Originally posted by CrazyPoet:
I recently had the opportunity to make a trade for a five-pack of pre-embargo Robert Burns Panatelas, a Clear Havana cigar from the late 1950's.

Photo...


What's a Clear Havana? Basically, it's a cigar made in the US from Cuban Tobacco.

This particular variety is, so far as I've been able to tell, machine-bunched and hand finished (someone correct me if I'm wrong, please. I haven't had the heart to dissect one...) They came in both cello-wrapped cardboard five-packs and in boxes of 25. Their original price was about fifteen cents each ($1.04, adjusted for inflation since 1958).

My grandfather smoked Burns cigars, along with Roi-Tan and White Owl. Smoking a sample of "his" cigars is as close as I'll ever be able to come to sharing a smoke with him, since he died before I'd had my first cigar. This one's for you, gramps! Smile

After removing the (still intact) cello wrap from the top of the box, I opened it to find five well-preserved smokes, each cello-wrapped with the band on the outside. The cello had turned a rich golden brown with age and the oils from the cigars.

I sent one off to an out-of-town friend, then took two to a regular Thursday get-together with some other BOTLs in Atlanta. I gave one to the man who gave me my first CC, and kept the other for myself.

On opening the wrapper, I found a smoke that had obviously been around for a while. The cigar looked old. It was plain that these had been allowed to dry out at some point in their history. The toothy, light wrapper had a fine dusting of plume, but was a bit wrinkled and shrunken - like the skin on a mummy's arm. Not a good sign, but being the adventurous type that I am, I continued - and I'm glad I did.

The cigar lit easily and burned beautifully. The draw was fine and even, and the smoke was plentiful. The ash was firm and medium-gray, holding to about an inch and a half.

Initially, the taste seemed to confirm my fears about it's preservation - it was thin and dry, very mild, almost tasteless. About an inch into the smoke, though, it seemed to wake up. It smoothed out, and picked up a distinct taste of leather and a hint of cream, with a very clean, short finish. It maintained this profile to the last two inches, when it picked up a note of mint - not sweet, not menthol, but very clean.

I smoked this cigar to the point where my moustache was in serious danger. Big Grin

There are two more in the pack, and I'm looking forward...


Sounds good Poet. It was touching when you said, "this ones for you Gramps".
I have a feeling that even if it was bad it had to have a certain something.
Good on you my friend.
 
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I'm glad you enjoyed it. I passed a few around awhile back and had mixed reviews, but the consensus was that they were pretty damn good.

How did your friend at the herf like 'em?


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I'm also on Vintagecigarclub.com and I know that Gotham has some type of monthly sampler deal where they send out about 4-5 smokes per month.

Worth trying if anyone is interested


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That's very interesting Poet. That stick is pre cut isn't it??


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That's very interesting Poet. That stick is pre cut isn't it??


Formed pre-punched, exactly.

It wasn't a premium line, but a very interesting smoke regardless.


So many cigars, so little time...
 
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I'm also on Vintagecigarclub.com and I know that Gotham has some type of monthly sampler deal where they send out about 4-5 smokes per month.

Worth trying if anyone is interested


Thanks - I'll take a look at both!


So many cigars, so little time...
 
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Jan 21, 2008 Site Map

In 1905, there were 70,000 cigar factories in the United States, making clear Havana and domestic cigars.

The Robert Burns brand was one of the better brands of clear Havana cigars, for 30+ years the sponsored the Burns & Allen radio show. http://gotham-cigar-museum.com/images/IMG_3016.JPG
 
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Gotham, welcome to the forum! I feel like you're going to be providing lots of information on the forum and am looking forward to them.
 
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Thanks, I guess I am the torch carrier for "clear Havana" cigars, hey, someone has to preserve some of that history.

Personally I think that clear Havanas cigars that were made from the 1920's to the mid-1950's were on par with imported Cuban cigars.
 
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Hey, Gotham - welcome to the forums!

I look forward to picking your brain on these unusual smokes...


So many cigars, so little time...
 
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